Is My Solution for 3D Triangle Area Correct?

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The discussion focuses on verifying the calculations for a 3D triangle area and related vector operations. Participants address specific parts of the homework, particularly the correct application of cross products and dot products, emphasizing the importance of vector components and their relationships. Clarifications are made regarding the use of unit vectors in determinants and the implications of parallel and perpendicular vectors on their dot products. The conversation also highlights the need for precise calculations and the correct interpretation of results, especially in determining angles and vector magnitudes. Overall, the thread serves as a collaborative effort to ensure accuracy in solving the geometry and vector-related problems.
  • #51
DODGEVIPER13 said:
If their dot product equals zero then they are perpendicular which my numbers seem to pass. As long as I'm doing the dot product right which I am pretty sure I am multiplying like values together and adding them.

Can you show that work?
 
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A=AlphaUx+3Uy-2Uz and B=4Ux+betaUy+8Uz then by observation I noticed if I plugged 1 in for alpha then when I multiplied 4Ux and 1 Ux I would get 4. I then saw that is I plugged 4 in for beta then when 3Uy and 4Uy multiplied I would get 12. These added together gave me 16 and when -2Uz and 8Uz I get -16 when added together I get 0 which I assumed was right but I'm guessing its not.
 
  • #53
DODGEVIPER13 said:
A=AlphaUx+3Uy-2Uz and B=4Ux+betaUy+8Uz then by observation I noticed if I plugged 1 in for alpha then when I multiplied 4Ux and 1 Ux I would get 4. I then saw that is I plugged 4 in for beta then when 3Uy and 4Uy multiplied I would get 12. These added together gave me 16 and when -2Uz and 8Uz I get -16 when added together I get 0 which I assumed was right but I'm guessing its not.


Okay, previously you claimed ##\alpha = 4## and ##\beta = 1##. Now you've swapped the values after checking. Always check!

While this (new) pair of values is one particular solution, you can get a general solution by expanding the [STRIKE]cross[/STRIKE] dot product symbolically and setting it to zero. You'll notice it yields one equation in two unknowns. What does that tell you?

Edit: Oops, I meant dot product, of course!
 
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Ok I got something wonky trying to do the cross product of that I can't upload it until around 1 so ill do it then but typically when you have 2 unknowns I would need a second equation correct? They must then both multiply times the constants to form the 0 maybe?
 
  • #55
DODGEVIPER13 said:
Ok I got something wonky trying to do the cross product of that I can't upload it until around 1 so ill do it then but typically when you have 2 unknowns I would need a second equation correct? They must then both multiply times the constants to form the 0 maybe?

Check my edit of my previous post: I meant DOT product, not CROSS product, of course.

If a system of equations is underdetermined (more unknowns than equations), then you can have an infinite number of solutions but a fixed relationship between the variables...
 
  • #56
ah makes sense so this obviously isn't the only solution but nonetheless one that will be correct right?
 
  • #57
DODGEVIPER13 said:
ah makes sense so this obviously isn't the only solution but nonetheless one that will be correct right?

Well, certainly not wrong, but at best incomplete :smile:
 

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