Is static frinction a conservative force?

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The discussion centers on whether static friction can be considered a conservative force in a system involving two blocks and a spring. It is noted that static friction allows the upper block to move without sliding on the lower block, raising questions about its energy characteristics. The conversation highlights that kinetic friction is non-conservative due to energy dissipation, prompting inquiries about static friction's energy behavior. Participants debate whether static friction can be associated with potential energy, especially since potential energy is primarily stored in the spring connected to the lower block. The conclusion emphasizes the need for clarity on static friction's role in energy transfer within the system.
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Homework Statement


Suppose we have a two blocks of masses m1 and m2, one on the top of another. The lower block is attached to a spring which is attached to the wall. These two blocks are on a zero-friction floor. We give the lower block a velocity so that the upper block is not sliding on the lower one. Considering known m1, m2 and spring constant k, can we calculate the potential energy of the upper block as a function of the displacement from the rest point?





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I don't think that we can calculate a potential energy of the upper block as the upper body is moving by the static friction. If static friction is a conservative force we can calculate it. If not, this question is meaningless.
 
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Hi Stergios. Kinetic friction is non conservative because it dissipates energy as heat from the system to the surrounding. So does static friction dissipate any energy from the system and to the surroundings?
 
Static friction is the moving force of the top block. Potential energy is being stored in the spring, which is attached to the bottom block. Can we tell that static friction is connected with a potential energy?
 
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