Is there work for object moving at a constant speed?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of work done on an object of mass 100kg moving at a constant speed of 7.2 m/s under the influence of a constant force. Participants explore the relationship between net work, kinetic energy, and the implications of constant speed in the context of physics principles.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to clarify the concept of net work and its relation to kinetic energy, questioning whether kinetic work is only present during acceleration. Others explore the implications of constant speed and the necessity of forces acting on the object, including friction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the definitions of work and kinetic energy, and how they relate to the scenario presented. There is a recognition that while individual forces may do work, the net work remains zero when the object moves at constant speed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the scenario may imply the presence of friction or other forces that require energy input to maintain constant speed, leading to further exploration of the system's energy dynamics.

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Homework Statement


An object of mass 100kg is acted on by a constant force as it moves through a displacement at a constant speed of 7.2m/s. What is the net work done on the object?

Homework Equations


Wnet = ΔK
Fnet = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the answer is zero because the equation, expanded, is: ½mvf2-½mvi2. Since final and initial velocity is the same, the net work will be zero... but I'm having difficulty trying to conceptualize the idea. So is kinetic work only present if the object is accelerating, either speeding up or slowing down? How does net work differ from work?
 
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Imagine a car driving on a (horizintal) highway. To keep it at constant speed, you need to burn gas by pushing down the pedal. But the energy supplied by the gas and transformed into work by the engine does not increase the kinetic energy (which is approximately constant, when neglecting the mass reduction of the car due to the burned gas). The kinetic energy also is present, if the car is proceeding at constant speed, the difference of the kinetic energy at two different times indicates the variation of speed and/or mass. Net work is the difference of the work done on the system and the work done by the system and it and any net work done corresponds to a variation of the stored energy of the system. Since the energy of the car on the highway in our case is constant (constant speed, constant height, ...), the net work equals zero. That means all the work done by the engine does not remain in the car, but is expended again and exits the system. But what for?
 
miyayeah said:
An object of mass 100kg is acted on by a constant force as it moves through a displacement at a constant speed of 7.2m/s
It seems to suggest a nonzero constant net force, as a vector, and a nonzero time, but in that case I do not understand how the speed can be constant. So the question is either flawed or deceptive.
 
miyayeah said:
So is kinetic work only present if the object is accelerating, either speeding up or slowing down?
What's kinetic work? Do you mean the change in kinetic energy? If so, that's not work.

How does net work differ from work?
The same way a force differs from the net force on an object.
 
miyayeah said:

Homework Statement


An object of mass 100kg is acted on by a constant force as it moves through a displacement at a constant speed of 7.2m/s. What is the net work done on the object?

Homework Equations


Wnet = ΔK
Fnet = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the answer is zero because the equation, expanded, is: ½mvf2-½mvi2. Since final and initial velocity is the same, the net work will be zero... but I'm having difficulty trying to conceptualize the idea. So is kinetic work only present if the object is accelerating, either speeding up or slowing down? How does net work differ from work?
If a body has several forces acting on it, if its velocity is constant, each individual force does work on the body, but the sum of these amounts of work must be zero (since the sum of the forces is zero). So even though the individual forces do work on the body, there is no net work done by the combined forces on the body.
 
miyayeah said:

Homework Statement


An object of mass 100kg is acted on by a constant force as it moves through a displacement at a constant speed of 7.2m/s. What is the net work done on the object?

Homework Equations


Wnet = ΔK
Fnet = 0

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that the answer is zero because the equation, expanded, is: ½mvf2-½mvi2. Since final and initial velocity is the same, the net work will be zero... but I'm having difficulty trying to conceptualize the idea. So is kinetic work only present if the object is accelerating, either speeding up or slowing down? How does net work differ from work?

The only way the scenario make sense is that if the object is subject to something like friction, so a force is needed to maintain its constant speed. If the force is applied (for example) through a cable pulled by a motor that burns fuel (or by you tugging on the cable), the motor (or you) expends energy in keeping the object moving. So work is being done on the "system", which is object + its environment.
 
vela said:
What's kinetic work? Do you mean the change in kinetic energy? If so, that's not work.The same way a force differs from the net force on an object.
Yes, sorry, I meant kinetic energy.
 

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