Solving Kinematic Movement Equation: Bike Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around solving a kinematic equation for a bike's acceleration. The user initially calculated acceleration using the formula a = v/t, leading to a different result than expected. It was clarified that the final speed should not be used directly to calculate distance, as it does not account for the average speed during acceleration. The correct approach involves recognizing that the average speed is half of the final speed in uniformly accelerated motion. Ultimately, the user realized the importance of using average speed in their calculations to arrive at the correct acceleration.
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Hi,
It's my first post here on the forum and I'm just looking for an answer to a basic kinematic movement equation.

This is the text of a problem:
"A bike accelerates uniformly from rest to a speed of 7.10 m/s over a distance of 35.4 m. Determine the acceleration of the bike."

Now, in the solution, they used v2=v02+2*a*s.
(s=d, v=vf, v0=vi)
To derive from that:
v2=2*a*s
v2/2*s=a


(7,1m/s)2/2*35,4m=a
50,41/70,8=a
a=0,712m/s2


Now my question is how I got a different answer by using a different equation, i.e.
a=v/t
a=v/(s/v)
a=7,1/(35.4/7.1)
a=7.1/4,985
a=1.424m/s2

What is the difference/mistake here that I/they did to get a different result?
Thank you in advance.
 
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FelixLudi said:
Now my question is how I got a different answer by using a different equation, i.e.
a=v/t
a=v/(s/v)

In these equations you are using ##v## as final speed ##a=v/t## and as average speed ##t=s/v##.
 
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But if I use a=vt then I will get m/s * s = m so vt should equal to s instead of a.
By that I mean shouldn't vt be equal to s and not a.

I don't understand what did I do wrong.

Edit: If I use a=vt then a=v*(s/v) which is basically a=s.
 
FelixLudi said:
But if I use a=vt then I will get m/s * s = m so vt should equal to s instead of a.
By that I mean shouldn't vt be equal to s and not a.

I don't understand what did I do wrong.

Sorry, I had a typo. I meant ##a = v/t##, of course.

##vt \ne s## if ##v## is final speed.

For example. You go out in your car and crawl through traffic for nearly an hour. Finally, you get onto a clear road and accelerate to ##100km/h##. So, you say:

My speed is ##v = 100km/h##

I've been driving for ##t = 1## hour.

Therefore, the distance I've driven is ##s = vt = 100km##

But, you might have only driven a few kms. In any case, you can't use your final speed to calculate how far you have driven.
 
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FelixLudi said:
Now my question is how I got a different answer by using a different equation, i.e.
a=v/t
a=v/(s/v)

You have calculated t from s/v but that only works if v is the average velocity. In this problem v is the final velocity not the average.

In this problem the velocity increases from 0 to v in a straight line (constant acceleration) so the average velocity is v/2 and your equation becomes

a = v/(s/v/2)
= v2/2s

which is the same equation as method 1).
 
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Oh, so it has to be average speed instead of final speed?
Didn't even notice that factor.

Thank you very much.
 
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