Kinetic energy, special relativity

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the kinetic energy of an electron given its momentum in the context of special relativity. The original poster attempts to relate momentum, velocity, and rest mass using relevant equations but expresses uncertainty about the availability of the electron's rest mass.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between momentum, velocity, and rest mass, with some questioning whether the rest mass is necessary for the calculation. The original poster considers looking up the rest mass while others suggest that it should not be necessary.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different relationships between variables. Some guidance has been offered regarding the Lorentz factor and its relationship to velocity, but there is no explicit consensus on how to proceed without the rest mass.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted lack of information regarding the electron's rest mass, which is central to the calculations being discussed. Participants are navigating this constraint while attempting to formulate their approach.

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Homework Statement



Calculate the kinetic energy of an electron whose momentum is 2MeV/c.

Homework Equations


[tex]P=\gamma m_0 v =mv[/tex].
[tex]E_K=(m-m_0)c^2[/tex].

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm told that [tex]\gamma m_0 v=\frac{2MeV}{c}[/tex].
If only I had the mass at rest of the electron (it isn't given in the problem), I could calculate its velocity with the first formula I gave. Then I could calculate its mass (not its rest mass, its apparent mass or whatever it's called). And then I could apply the third formula and this would solve the problem. Am I right?
So, should I look for the electron's rest mass in some book? Is there a missing data, or can I solve the problem without this info?
 
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You can do that. But you shouldn't have to look anything up. Do you know the relationship between [tex]\lambda[/tex] (the lorentz factor) and v? if so, solve for the rest mass. Similarly, you can find the relationship between [tex]m[/tex] and [tex]m_0[/tex]. I hope that helps!
 
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aq1q said:
You can do that. But you shouldn't have to look anything up. Do you know the relationship between [tex]\lambda[/tex] (the lorentz factor) and v? if so, solve for the rest mass. Similarly, you can find the relationship between [tex]m[/tex] and [tex]m_0[/tex]. I hope that helps!

I appreciate very much your help.
What I know is [tex]\gamma =\frac{1}{\sqrt {1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}[/tex]. I don't know how to solve for the rest mass since v is unknown. I get [tex]m_0=\frac{P}{v}\sqrt {1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}[/tex] where P and c are known but not v...
 
ahh what was i thinking. you're right! you need to look up the rest mass. I'm really sorry, at a quick glance I thought this was just algebra.
 
aq1q said:
ahh what was i thinking. you're right! you need to look up the rest mass. I'm really sorry, at a quick glance I thought this was just algebra.
Ok thanks for your help. Problem solved!
 
fluidistic said:
Ok thanks for your help. Problem solved!

great!
 

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