Laminar flow in a tube, heat transfer coefficient-sanity check

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The discussion revolves around the heat transfer coefficient in laminar flow within a tube, specifically questioning its dependence on tube diameter. Participants explore theoretical aspects of heat transfer, Nusselt numbers, and the implications of flow conditions on these parameters.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the heat transfer coefficient is independent of tube diameter, suggesting that Nusselt number may have a weak dependence on diameter during flow development.
  • Another participant asks for the equation of the local Nusselt number as a function of Reynolds number, Prandtl number, and axial position in the thermal entrance region.
  • A participant agrees with the initial assessment, stating that for laminar flow, the Nusselt number is virtually independent of diameter.
  • Dimensional analysis presented by another participant indicates that the dimensionless temperature is a function of dimensionless axial position and radius, which does not depend on diameter.
  • A participant expresses satisfaction with the confirmation of their understanding after receiving feedback from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While some participants agree that the Nusselt number is largely independent of tube diameter for laminar flow, the initial question about the heat transfer coefficient's dependence remains open to further exploration and clarification.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about flow conditions and the thermal entrance region, which may influence the applicability of the claims made regarding the heat transfer coefficient and Nusselt number.

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Hi there,

Hopefully this is a very easy question and you all can just confirm this for me.

When calculating heat transfer into a fluid from a heated tube, is it correct to say that the heat transfer coefficient is *not* dependent on the tube diameter?

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So, if we solve for T_{out}, we get:

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Substituting h for K*N/D, which is fluid thermal conductivity K, Nusselt number (depends on flow conditions and location in flow), and D is diameter, we get:

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Finally, for our circular duct, A = pi*D*dx, so we get:

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So, is there no dependence on tube diameter? I know that Nusselt number is *weakly* dependent on diameter when the flow is still developing, but that seems like it. In other words, given a large enough furnace, I could put a tube of any size in that furnace, and the flow would heat just as quickly regardless of tube diameter. That feels wrong to me, is there something I am missing?

Thanks!
 

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For laminar flow in a tube (with constant wall temperature), what is the equation for the local Nussult number as a function of the Reynolds number, Prantdl number, and x/D in the thermal entrance region?

For laminar flow in a tube (with constant wall temperature), what is the equation for asymptotic Nussult number at large distances along the tube?
 
As best as I can tell, your assessment is correct. For laminar flow, Nu is virtually independent of D.
 
Dimensional analysis of the partial differential heat balance equation shows that the dimensionless temperature ##\frac{T-T_0}{T_w-T_0}## is a function only of the dimensionless axial position ##\frac{kz}{WC_p}## and the dimensionless radius r/R. The dimensionless axial position is independent of diameter.
 
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Yup. After sleeping on it, I felt pretty correct about what I had written. But it is nice to have had someone else look it over. Thank you for your time!

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