Laminar flow in a tube, heat transfer coefficient-sanity check

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The discussion centers on the heat transfer coefficient in laminar flow within a tube and its dependence on tube diameter. It is clarified that, for laminar flow with a constant wall temperature, the heat transfer coefficient is virtually independent of the tube diameter. The Nusselt number, which influences heat transfer, is primarily affected by flow conditions rather than diameter, especially in the thermal entrance region. The conversation confirms that the dimensionless temperature and axial position do not depend on diameter, supporting the initial assessment. Overall, the conclusion is that tube diameter does not significantly impact heat transfer rates in this context.
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Hi there,

Hopefully this is a very easy question and you all can just confirm this for me.

When calculating heat transfer into a fluid from a heated tube, is it correct to say that the heat transfer coefficient is *not* dependent on the tube diameter?

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So, if we solve for T_{out}, we get:

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Substituting h for K*N/D, which is fluid thermal conductivity K, Nusselt number (depends on flow conditions and location in flow), and D is diameter, we get:

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Finally, for our circular duct, A = pi*D*dx, so we get:

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So, is there no dependence on tube diameter? I know that Nusselt number is *weakly* dependent on diameter when the flow is still developing, but that seems like it. In other words, given a large enough furnace, I could put a tube of any size in that furnace, and the flow would heat just as quickly regardless of tube diameter. That feels wrong to me, is there something I am missing?

Thanks!
 

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For laminar flow in a tube (with constant wall temperature), what is the equation for the local Nussult number as a function of the Reynolds number, Prantdl number, and x/D in the thermal entrance region?

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As best as I can tell, your assessment is correct. For laminar flow, Nu is virtually independent of D.
 
Dimensional analysis of the partial differential heat balance equation shows that the dimensionless temperature ##\frac{T-T_0}{T_w-T_0}## is a function only of the dimensionless axial position ##\frac{kz}{WC_p}## and the dimensionless radius r/R. The dimensionless axial position is independent of diameter.
 
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Yup. After sleeping on it, I felt pretty correct about what I had written. But it is nice to have had someone else look it over. Thank you for your time!

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