Can MRI Detect a Light Bulb Inside a Closed Box?

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This discussion explores various methods to detect the position of a glowing light bulb inside a closed, non-transparent box. Techniques mentioned include using X-ray imaging, thermal imaging, and magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) to ascertain the bulb's location. Participants suggest innovative approaches such as employing a metal detector, sonar, and even thermal cameras to analyze temperature variations on the box's surface. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the physical properties of the bulb and the box material to effectively determine the bulb's position.

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  • #31
One could go back to basics with calculus such as the heat equation or consider this: Place a thermistor on the face of each side of the box then connect each pair of thermistors (x,y and, z,y planes for example) leads to a differential amplifier on a split supply. Using this approach the one use the differential voltage (+/- voltage swing) to determine which planes (side of the box ) is getting warmer. Are you sure the wattage of your light bulb will not start a fire or cause some other safety problem?
 
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  • #32
rons99 said:
By using thermal camera shoot the box surface from the top, front and right side could be known the light bulb position. Good luck.

rons99 said:
By using thermal camera shoot the box surface from the top, front and right side could be known the light bulb position. Good luck.
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  • #33
The thermal image is a cool way to do it. Maybe use the idea to build something like a new kind of trap. Perhaps feeding an input signal to a system operating in a closed or open loop control system
 
  • #34
It's in the box
 
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  • #35
Ygggdrasil said:
I suspect these questions are related to the questions that you've been asking about brain imaging in the biology form.

Anyway, if the bulb is incandescent, you could do thermal imaging (if the box is transparent to IR) to estimate the temperature of the filament inside the bulb. Since the light is produced by a well known physical mechanism, you could then model the spectrum of light output by the bulb based on measured parameters.
Yes well, I've been thinking about ways to visualize the actual electrical synapses inside a person's head. Well, I got an idea of lighting up the sodium ion with wavelength 589nm, or the solar roof technique, but both requires looking inside the brain. I swear I saw my brain light up one night, I'm just not sure how people retrieve that signal(through the eyes?). We know MRI can retrieve radio signal because it passes through, but the resolution is low. So, I'd like some idea on how to visualize electrical synapses
 
  • #36
fredreload said:
Yes well, I've been thinking about ways to visualize the actual electrical synapses inside a person's head. Well, I got an idea of lighting up the sodium ion with wavelength 589nm, or the solar roof technique, but both requires looking inside the brain. I swear I saw my brain light up one night, I'm just not sure how people retrieve that signal(through the eyes?). We know MRI can retrieve radio signal because it passes through, but the resolution is low. So, I'd like some idea on how to visualize electrical synapses
I can't speak for your brain lighting up. But you may find some useful information about visualizing electromagnetic radiation within the visible spectrum from this thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/what-decides-the-colour-of-light.842780/
 
  • #37
21. Hit the box and calculate its vibrational modes on the x,y, and z axis. From the time response and the mass you should be able to calculate the moment of inertia and thus the mass distribution and thus the location of the bulb.
 
  • #38
collinsmark said:
I can't speak for your brain lighting up. But you may find some useful information about visualizing electromagnetic radiation within the visible spectrum from this thread:
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/what-decides-the-colour-of-light.842780/
Right, I know the visible spectrum of light, the thing is most electromagnetic radiation of visible spectrum does not pass through the skull. I was able to see it through the reverse projection in the eye(not sure how that works but it was visible, it shouldn't be a dream), but even then my eyes are closed, so how do people retrieve that light remains a mystery, thing is technology like this or the brain does not appear over the years, most of them remain in secret
 
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