Linear algebra ordered basis problem

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The discussion centers on finding the β and γ coordinates of the vector x = \begin{pmatrix}-1\\-13\\9\\\end{pmatrix} using the provided bases β and γ. Participants express confusion about the role of the ordered bases and how they relate to the transformation of the vector x. Clarification is sought on whether x represents the vector before or after transformation, leading to a better understanding of the relationship between the coordinates and the bases. One participant believes they have derived the β coordinates correctly but seeks validation. The thread concludes with an offer to share the instructor's solution for further clarification.
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1. The problem statement

find the β coordinates ([x]β) and γ coordinates ([x]γ) of the vector x = \begin{pmatrix}-1\\-13\\<br /> 9\\<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> \in\mathbb R

if {β= \begin{pmatrix}-1\\4\\<br /> -2\\<br /> \end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}3\\-1\\<br /> -2\\<br /> \end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}2\\-5\\<br /> 1\\<br /> \end{pmatrix}} and {γ= \begin{pmatrix}3\\-1\\<br /> -2\\<br /> \end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}1\\4\\<br /> -2\\<br /> \end{pmatrix},\begin{pmatrix}2\\-5\\<br /> 1\\<br /> \end{pmatrix}}3. The Attempt at a Solution

i read my notes and as i understood it, an ordered basis is the linear combination that you use to obtain a specific vector in a vector space. I am not clear on the beta and gamma coordinates,
and i can't understand why the β and γ basis includes 3 vectors? I am thinking on the lines that x is obtained through a combination between the β coordinates and the given β , but that does not get me anywhere. please someone point me in the right direction! thank you

edit : ok i understand that β times the β coordinates would give the vector before the transformation, and γ
times the γ coordinates give the vector after transformation. but what exactly is x then? the vector before transformation or the vector after transformation?
 
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ok i have finally managed to get an answer for this question but I am not sure of it at all, this is what i did

[β]x(a,b,c,d) = x where (a,b,c,d) is the beta coordinate of x

and i solved this equation and ended up getting some values for a b c and d which i wrote down as the β coordinates. is this wrong?
 
our instructor solved this problem so anyone want to know the solution just let me know :)
 
priyathh said:
our instructor solved this problem so anyone want to know the solution just let me know :)
I would like to know.
 
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