Linear Algebra: Vector Subspaces

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether the union of two vector subspaces is itself a subspace. Participants are exploring the properties of vector subspaces in the context of linear algebra.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants question the assumptions regarding closure under scalar multiplication and addition when considering the union of two subspaces. Others suggest looking for counter-examples to illustrate the properties of such unions.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the topic, with some participants providing examples to support their claims. The discussion has not reached a consensus, but there are indications of productive reasoning being shared.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the definitions of vector subspaces and the implications of their unions, with some expressing uncertainty about the foundational concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



True/false: Union of two vector subspaces is a subspace.

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The Attempt at a Solution



I'm unsure if this is true because I'm also unsure if it already assumes that it is closed under scalar multiplication and addition. If it is closed, then I'd like to think it is true, but it might be false if it isn't closed. Help me a lil' to know what's already assumed?
 
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Generally that is false, the union of two vector subspaces is not a subspace. To prove it is false, first assume that it is true and look for a counter-example. Let me see what you can come up with.
 
how about span of e1 and span of e2. Then their union is not closed under vector addition, then the union is not a subspace, woah.
 
war485 said:

Homework Statement



True/false: Union of two vector subspaces is a subspace.

Homework Equations



none

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm unsure if this is true because I'm also unsure if it already assumes that it is closed under scalar multiplication and addition. If it is closed, then I'd like to think it is true, but it might be false if it isn't closed. Help me a lil' to know what's already assumed?
Do you not know what the "union" of two sets is? A question like this doesn't "assume" anything it doesn't say. Since a "subspace" is simply a subset that is closed under addition and scalar multiplication, surely a question that asks whether something is a subspace or not will not "assume" that it is a subspace.

As war485 suggested, in R2, {(x, 0)} is a subspace, containing, say, (2, 0). The set {(0, y)} is a subspace containing (0, 3). Their union does NOT contain (2, 3).
 

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