Linear force vs Torque vs Axial force

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison of linear force, torque, and axial force, particularly in the context of applying force at different angles, such as during needle insertion. Participants explore the implications of force application techniques and their effectiveness based on the angle of approach.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether torque and axial force are inherently stronger than linear force, particularly in the context of angled force application.
  • One participant suggests that using a lever can magnify force or the distance over which a force operates, indicating a relationship between force application techniques and effectiveness.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of the surface being penetrated, with one participant noting that the resistance encountered varies depending on the angle of approach and the type of surface.
  • Another participant clarifies the terms "lateral" and "perpendicular" in relation to force application, indicating a need for understanding directional forces in the context of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between torque, axial force, and linear force, with no consensus reached on the strength of these forces in the described scenarios.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks clarity on specific definitions of forces and the exact scenarios being referenced, which may affect the understanding of the claims made.

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Is it true that torque and axial force are stronger than linear force? If I hit something with an acute angle and progressively turn it into a lower angle while moving forward,is it applying more force?( for example needle insertion)
 
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PhysicsKnight said:
Is it true that torque and axial force are stronger than linear force? If I hit something with an acute angle and progressively turn it into a lower angle while moving forward,is it applying more force?( for example needle insertion)
Hi
They are two entirely different things. Using a lever can magnify a force or magnify the distance that a force operates.
It is not clear exactly what situation you are actually describing but, if you are actually asking about inserting a needle into skin (?) or some surface then the technique will depend on the nature of the surface. The skin is probably tougher than the substrate (fat?) so when pushing across the surface with the needle, the lateral resistance is greater so the puncturing force will be greater for a given amount of movement. Pushing perpendicularly into the skin will encounter very little resistance until the fat underneath has depressed by an alarming degree - so you only achieve the required puncturing force after a large amount of movement.
The above is only an example but it could apply to many other situations.
 
Hi,thnks for replying. What do you mean by lateral and perpendicular in this scenario?
 
Sideways and head on to the surface.
 

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