Load Flow Order of Jacobian Matrix Power System

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The discussion revolves around the order of the Jacobian matrix in the context of the Newton Raphson Method for Load Flow Studies in power systems. Participants are examining the formula for calculating the matrix's order based on the number of buses and the classification of these buses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the order of the Jacobian matrix should be calculated as N + Np - 1, where N is the total number of buses and Np is the number of P-Q buses, leading to an order of 69 x 69.
  • Another participant agrees with the calculation of 69 x 69.
  • A third participant references an external source that supports the formula (n + n_p - 1) for the size of the Jacobian matrix, reinforcing the initial claim.
  • One participant suggests that the book's answer is incorrect based on the previous calculations.
  • Another participant argues that the slack bus is also a voltage-controlled bus, implying that the book's approach may be valid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus among participants. Some support the initial calculation of the Jacobian matrix order as 69 x 69, while others defend the book's position regarding the treatment of the slack bus.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the treatment of the slack bus in the formula and its implications for the order of the Jacobian matrix. The discussion reflects differing interpretations of the definitions and classifications of buses in power systems.

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I'm studying Newton Raphson Method in Load Flow Studies. Book has defined Jacobian Matrix and it's order as: N + Np - 1
N = Total Number of Buses
Np = Number of P-Q Buses

But in solved example they've used some other formula. I'm not sure if it's right.
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Shouldn't order be: N + Np - 1
N = 40
Np = number of P-Q buses = (total number of buses) - (number of P-V buses) - slack bus = 40 - 9 - 1 = 30
So order = N + Np - 1 = 40 + 30 - 1 = 69
Order = 69 X 69
But none of the option is this.
Why have they ignored slack bus in the formula?
 

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It has been a long time since I did this, but I think you are correct 69x69.
 
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So I guess book answer is wrong. Thanks.
 
slack bus is also voltage controlled bus, so the book is correct
 

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