Classical Long lead time in getting text books

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The discussion highlights significant delays in obtaining textbooks, specifically Jackson's Classical Electrodynamics, with some students waiting up to 40 days for delivery. Concerns are raised about the declining availability of textbooks in college bookstores, particularly for graduate programs, as many institutions are shifting to alternative texts like Zangwill. The ease of accessing textbooks has diminished over the years, with fewer local bookstores carrying academic titles and many requiring online purchases. There is a fear that students may not engage deeply with textbooks, opting instead for limited readings to complete assignments. The conversation also touches on the accessibility of textbooks in developing countries, suggesting that students from these regions perform well in U.S. graduate programs due to their resourcefulness in acquiring educational materials.
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Finally, got my new copy of Jackson's Classical Electrodynamics 3rd Ed. Took almost 40 days to come in from Amazon...Classmate said his copy won't be in until December. Is this becoming a trend??
 
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Amazon's web page says 1-2 mos., which isn't all that bad for a 15 year old copyright; 40 years ago, you could wait 1-2 years for orders enough to accumulate for a publisher to set-up a run of a few dozen copies of a "specialty" text.
 
Wonder if this is why my school isn't using it this year, I remember seeing a stack of them last semester
 
I wonder if it is falling out of favor as the defacto standard for graduate E&M?? I asked my college student kid to look for a copy where he goes to school and they didn't have a copy on the shelf either, neither did the other major university in town here. The graduate course there is being taught out of Zangwill this year.
 
Beleive me Jackson has not fallen out of disfavor. Even when I cannot find a copy in a college bookstore, I often ask to see what textbooks are currently being used in the physics curricula, at the graduate level. After consulting the book of orders, the bookstore staff invariably answers Jackson.
Forty years ago, getting Jackson was easy. All you had to do is go to your College bookstore with 25 dollars. I bought My copy of Jackson 2nd edition in 1976 for 25,00.
Up till about 15 years ago I knew 5 or 6 bookstores within 100 miles I could drive to that sold professional books in science math and medicine. Now I do not know any I have to go to MIT.Harvard COOP or Stanford. It has been about 10 years since I have visited them so for all I know, these place do not carry them and expect students to buy online.

Some regional college bookstores do not allow browsing. (This is why your kids cannot find a copy, also Jackson is probably used in only in colleges that carry a graduate physics program. In addition many college bookstores send books back as soon as the students buy them in the first few weeks in class). They probably should. I must have bought at least 1500 dollars a year on textbooks and computer software when books were more widely available. I knew about 10 professionals that did the same thing

Up until this post, I had the idea that any widely used textbook from Amazon would come within a week. I bet the bestselling worthless diet book or action video would come in 3 days.

I know how much my textbooks have contributed to my professional development. I actually fear for a future where nobody reads textbooks and may (or may not even) just read a limited section sufficient only to do assigned problems. I have seen some questions in the forum that asks, How important is it to read the textbook etc.

Consider the fact that many of our textbooks are available in (albeit, in paperback with poor paper quality) in developing countries at drastically reduced prices, Is it any wonder that students from developing countries generally get very high scores on admission tests in getting into US graduate programs?
 
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I would download it since it's on Archive. You can go to a local store and print it, then give it a proper binding all for little money. This is perfectly doable on this part of Europe, not sure if you'd get in trouble somewhere else, so I don't recommend doing this to the uninformed reader. But I don't see how it can be wrong as long as you don't profit off of it.
 
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