Lumped parameters model: inverse dynamic

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To convert ground excitation into equivalent force excitation for a single degree of freedom model, two common approaches are suggested: using a large mass or a large stiffness method. The large mass method involves adding a mass significantly greater than the rest of the model to the base and calculating the force based on the ground motion function. Alternatively, the large stiffness method connects the base to the ground with high stiffness and applies a force proportional to the ground displacement. The user reports that the large mass method initially worked but later faced issues with the ground mass motion being influenced by the rest of the model. Further suggestions are requested to resolve this challenge.
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Hi all, I have a ground excited single degree of freedom model, like that:

http://www.bsw-schwingungstechnik.de/fileadmin/user_upload/images/2/graphic-passiv-isolation.jpg

I know the excitation function, i.e. s(t), but I need to know the force that imposes a specific s(t). I need it, because I want to simulate a model (little bit more complex) with a multibody tool, that it doesn't allow to excite systems with a ground displacement. So I need to convert the ground excitation with an equivalent force excitation. How could I do that for the single degree of freedom model? Any suggestion is appreciated.
Hopefully the problem is well stated.

thanks

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You can model this be adding a large mass (say 1000 times the rest of the model) to the base, and then calculate the force to move the mass according to s(t) ignoring the rest of the model.

Or, you can connect the base to the ground with a large stiffness ##K##, and apply a force ##Ks(t)## to it.

These modelling methods are usually (and unimaginatively!) called the "large mass" and "large stiffness" methods.
 
AlephZero said:
You can model this be adding a large mass (say 1000 times the rest of the model) to the base, and then calculate the force to move the mass according to s(t) ignoring the rest of the model.

Or, you can connect the base to the ground with a large stiffness ##K##, and apply a force ##Ks(t)## to it.

These modelling methods are usually (and unimaginatively!) called the "large mass" and "large stiffness" methods.

Hi,

thanks for your reply, I tried with the large mass method and it works fine. Which approach do multibody sw use?
 
Hi alphazero,

I tried the large mass method, but it doesn't work, the ground mass motion is always affected by the rest of the model. Any other suggestion is appreciated.

thanks

regards
 
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