Magnetism (Current-Carrying Wires)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the spring constants of two parallel wires connected by springs, subjected to a current from a battery. The participants utilize equations related to spring force and magnetic fields to derive the spring constant, with one user arriving at a value of 106 N/m. They confirm the use of relevant constants and parameters, including resistance, current, and wire length, in their calculations. The verification of the calculations indicates that the approach taken is correct. The conversation highlights the interplay between electricity and magnetism in determining mechanical properties.
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1. Homework Statement
Two straight wires, each with a resistance of 0.170 ohm and a length of 3.90m, are lying parallel to each other on a smooth horizontal table. Their ends are connected by identical, non-conducting, light springs, each spring having an unstretched length of 1.08 cm. A wire of negligible resistance connects the wires at one end. When a switch is closed to connect a battery with a voltage of 49.0 V between the other ends of the wires, the wires move apart and come to rest with a separation of 1.57 cm

Question: Find the force constants of the springs.




2. Homework Equations

F=-kx
(F/L)=(u0I1I2)/2Pi r




3. The Attempt at a Solution

I tried to solve using the equations above for K, and does not work.
 
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Did you modify the k in the spring equation to take into account the presence of both springs in a parallel arrangement?
 
Yes I did. This is what I got:
F=-2kx
(F/L)=(uI^2)/(2pi a)

k=(uI^2L)/(4piax)

I tried solving this, but got wrong answers. What I did:
u=1.26e-6 (Constant given to use)
I=144.1176 (Combining resistors in series and finding current)
L=3.90 (Length of the wire)
a=0.0157 (Seperation of the wires)
x=0.0049 (stretch of the spring)

Thats what I use, and I got 106 N/m. Can you verify that please?
 
due to passing of current the magnetic field is created in the rods hence we know the formula F=vlb from that u can find the force and from F=kx u can find the spring constant
 
So what I have is correct? Can you check?
 
Charanjit said:
Yes I did. This is what I got:
F=-2kx
(F/L)=(uI^2)/(2pi a)

k=(uI^2L)/(4piax)

I tried solving this, but got wrong answers. What I did:
u=1.26e-6 (Constant given to use)
I=144.1176 (Combining resistors in series and finding current)
L=3.90 (Length of the wire)
a=0.0157 (Seperation of the wires)
x=0.0049 (stretch of the spring)

Thats what I use, and I got 106 N/m. Can you verify that please?
I agree, good job.

dineshnaveen said:
due to passing of current the magnetic field is created in the rods hence we know the formula F=vlb from that u can find the force and from F=kx u can find the spring constant
Charanjit already knew that!
 
Thank you. :)
 
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