Magnitude and Direction of Charged Particles

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The problem involves three charged particles located at the corners of an equilateral triangle, with specific charges and a defined distance between them. Participants are tasked with calculating the net force acting on each particle due to the others, focusing on both magnitude and direction.

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  • Participants discuss the forces between the charged particles and express confusion regarding the directions of these forces. There are attempts to calculate the forces numerically, but questions arise about the correct application of vector components and angles.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing calculations and seeking clarification on the relationships between the forces. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of angles in vector addition, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to determining the net force directions.

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Participants note a lack of clarity regarding the signs of the forces and the implications of attraction and repulsion between the charges. There is also mention of previous coursework that may influence their understanding of vector components.

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Homework Statement


Three charged particles are placed at the corners of an equilateral triangle of side 1.20 m.
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The charges are +7.0 microcoulombs, -8.0 microcoulombs, and -6.0 microcoulombs. Calculate the magnitude and direction of the net force on each due to the other two.


Homework Equations


F=k(Q1Q2)/r^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I've worked out the forces between the particles but I am having trouble with the directions.

I have:
F12 = 0.35N
F23 = 0.30N
F31 = 0.26N

I know that Q2 and Q3 will attract Q1 down towards them, a little more towards Q2.
I know that Q2 will repel Q3 but will be attracted by Q1.
I know that Q3 will be repelled by Q2 but attracted by Q1.

I remember vector components and such from spring semesters Physics I class, but I don't remember exactly how it worked. For example, I know that the force in the y direction that Q2 will act on Q1 will be 0.35 sin60, but in one of the solutions I was looking at on Cramster, they had it as negative.

I understand the *concepts* of most of the stuff I am doing, but when it comes down to putting the math on the paper, I am at a loss. Any help is appreciated.

Danny
 
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If α is the angle between F1 and F12, then it can shown that
tan α = F2*sinθ/(F1 + F2*cosθ)
 
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rl.bhat said:
If α is the angle between F1 and F12, then it can shown that
tan α = F2*sinθ/(F1 + F2*cosθ)

What do you mean the angle between F1 and F12?


My calculations for F12 is F12=k(Q1Q2)/r^2 = 9.0 N*m^2/C^2 * (7.0x10^-6C * 8.0x10^-6C)/(1.20m)^2 = 0.35 N

F23 and F31 are similar but with the appropriate charges.
 
F12 = 0.35 N towards Q2
F13 = 0.26 N towards Q3
Angle between them is 60 degrees.
Net force on Q1 = F1 = Sqrt[ F12^2 + F13*2 + 2*F12*F13*cosθ]
To find the angle between F1 and F12 see my post #2
 

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