Marginal pdf, what am I doing wrong?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the marginal probability density function of X from a given joint probability density function f(x,y). The original poster expresses confusion regarding the integration process and the limits of integration, particularly concerning the bounds for x and y.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to compute the marginal pdf by integrating the joint pdf but questions the correctness of their bounds and the constant factor used. They also explore whether the bounds for x should be from -inf to inf or based on the relationship between x and y.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively questioning the setup of the problem, particularly the limits of integration and the correctness of the joint density function. Some suggest visualizing the region where the function is non-zero to clarify the integration limits. There is a focus on understanding how to properly set up the integral for the marginal pdf.

Contextual Notes

The original problem states specific bounds for y (0 < y < inf) and for x (−y < x < y), which are under scrutiny regarding their implications for the integration process.

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Homework Statement



f(xy)=49/8*e^(−3.5*y) 0 < y < inf and −y < x < y

0 otherwise

a. Find the marginal probability density function of X, fX(x). Enter a formula in the first box, and a number for the second and the third box corresponding to the range of x. Use * for multiplication, / for division, ^ for power, abs for absolute value and exp for exponential function. For example, 3abs(x-5)exp(-x/2) means 3|x-5|e-x/2. Use inf for ∞ and -inf for -∞.

I'm not sure what I am doing wrong here, I keep getting 7/4 and the bounds are from -inf to inf right?

Homework Equations


The marginal pdf equation for x.

The Attempt at a Solution



I did the 8/49*∫e^(-3.5*y) from 0 to inf and got 7/4 with the bounds of x being from 0 to inf. What exactly am I doing wrong?

Or would the bounds be from x to infinity? Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks for the help
 
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First of all I think you should check the problem is typed correctly. I don't think what you have given is a density function. Second, draw a picture of the region where ##f(x,y)\ne 0##. You need to know that to know the correct limits for your integrals.
 
LCKurtz said:
First of all I think you should check the problem is typed correctly. I don't think what you have given is a density function. Second, draw a picture of the region where ##f(x,y)\ne 0##. You need to know that to know the correct limits for your integrals.

You're right, it was 49/8 not 8/49 for the constant. I tried drawing the picture, I got that the bounds seem to look like its from -inf to inf. But for the distribution wouldn't I have to get x in terms of y? That's why I thought the bounds would be from -x to x, since x < y and y > -x.
 
Rifscape said:
You're right, it was 49/8 not 8/49 for the constant. I tried drawing the picture, I got that the bounds seem to look like its from -inf to inf. But for the distribution wouldn't I have to get x in terms of y? That's why I thought the bounds would be from -x to x, since x < y and y > -x.
Your original statement of the problem had limits: 0 < y < inf and −y < x < y. That is the region where your ##f(x,y)\ne 0##. Now, the definition of the marginal density is$$
f_X(x) = \int_{-\infty}^\infty f(x,y)~dy$$You only have to integrate over the region where ##f(x,y)\ne 0##. For each ##x## you integrate in the ##y## direction. When ##x<0## where does ##y## go? When ##x>0## where does ##y## go? You need to look at your region. So let's see how you set up that integral.
 
LCKurtz said:
Your original statement of the problem had limits: 0 < y < inf and −y < x < y. That is the region where your ##f(x,y)\ne 0##. Now, the definition of the marginal density is$$
f_X(x) = \int_{-\infty}^\infty f(x,y)~dy$$You only have to integrate over the region where ##f(x,y)\ne 0##. For each ##x## you integrate in the ##y## direction. When ##x<0## where does ##y## go? When ##x>0## where does ##y## go? You need to look at your region. So let's see how you set up that integral.

Would I need to split it up and integrate x from -inf to 0, and then integrate x from 0 to inf?
 
LCKurtz said:
When ##x<0## where does ##y## go? When ##x>0## where does ##y## go? You need to look at your region. So let's see how you set up that integral.

Rifscape said:
Would I need to split it up and integrate x from -inf to 0, and then integrate x from 0 to inf?

You aren't integrating ##x##. It it is a ##y## integral. You could start by answering the two questions I asked you above. It would also help if you would describe the region in words so I know you have the correct region in the first place.
 

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