Mass and pulley system question

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The discussion focuses on calculating the acceleration of a mass hanging from a pulley system involving two masses and a frictionless incline. The user initially attempts to apply Newton's second law but confuses forces with moments of inertia, leading to incorrect calculations. Key advice includes treating each mass separately and writing the force equations for the suspended mass and the pulley, while also considering the differing tensions in the string on either side of the pulley. It emphasizes the importance of maintaining consistent dimensionality when performing calculations. Properly structuring the problem will lead to the correct determination of the acceleration.
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A mass M = 53 g hangs from a light, inextensible string. It passes without sliding over a pulley. The pulley can be treated as a solid homogeneous disc with mass mp = 12 g and radius 3.6 cm, that turns without friction on its axis. The other end is attached to a mass m = 27 g that slides without friction on a plane inclined at angle θ = 25° to the horizontal. What is the acceleration of mass M?

Homework Equations



I of disk = 1/2MR^2

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Okay, so I am attempting to find the acceleration of the mass downwards. Due to Newton's second law, the sum of all forces is 0. Therefore logically, the acceleration should be

acceleration of M = Mg - (inertia of disk + mgsin(x) )

so acceleration of M = 0.054x9.8 - [(0.5 x 0.012 x 3.6^2) + (0.027x 9.8 x sin25)]

But for some reason I am not getting the right answer. Am I approaching it incorrectly?
 

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You are mixing up several different kinds of physical entity. You are subtracting a moment of inertia from a force and taking the answer to be an acceleration. You can only add or subtract or equate two things if they have the same dimensionality - both forces, both accelerations, both moments of inertia, etc.

Best is to consider each mass separately, creating extra symbols for unknowns as necessary. What are the forces acting on the suspended mass? Write down the ∑F= ma equation for that. Then do the same for the pulley (∑torque = Iα in this case) and again for the other mass.
Be careful wrt the tensions in the string. The tension one side of the pulley will be different from that on the other side.
 
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