Mass and spring in circular motion.

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a mass in circular motion influenced by a harmonic potential. The main focus is on determining the frequency of the orbit and the frequency of small oscillations when a radial kick is applied. The solution involves using the relationship between the spring constant, mass, and the equilibrium position. Participants clarify the significance of the equilibrium length (r0) and its assumption in the calculations. Ultimately, the consensus is that the method is correct, and r0 can be set to zero for simplification.
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Just preparing for a physics prelim and working through previous exam questions.

Homework Statement


A mass m moving in a circular orbit about the origin is attracted by a three dimensional harmonic potential,

U(r)=\frac{1}{2}kr^{2}

What is the frequency of the orbit? If a small kick is supplied in the radial direction, what will be the frequency of the ensuing small oscillations in r?

The Attempt at a Solution



k(r-r_{0})=m\omega^{2}_{0}r

\frac{k}{m}\frac{(r-r_{0})}{r}=\omega^{2}_{0}

\mathbf{Frequency\hspace{1 mm} of\hspace{1 mm} orbit\hspace{1 mm}}\omega_{0}=\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}\frac{(r-r_{0})}{r}}

\ddot{r}=-\omega^{2}r \hspace{5 mm} \omega^{2}=\frac{k}{m}

\omega^{2}=\frac{k}{m}=\frac{r\omega^{2}_{0}}{r-r_0}

\mathbf{Frequency\hspace{1 mm} of\hspace{1 mm} oscillation\hspace{1 mm}}\omega=\omega_0\sqrt{\frac{r}{r-r_{0}}}

Just wondering if my solution looks correct. Thanks for the help.
 
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Hi AbigailM :smile:

Your method looks correct to me, but you aren't given r0 in the question... :wink:
 
Ok, so where I'm confused is that as the spring-mass is rotated, it extends from its equilibrium length due to centripetal force. So why is (r-r_{0}) wrong?

Thanks for the help.
 
AbigailM said:
Ok, so where I'm confused is that as the spring-mass is rotated, it extends from its equilibrium length due to centripetal force. So why is (r-r_{0}) wrong?

Thanks for the help.

It isn't wrong. The 'equilibrium length' r0 isn't a given information in your question, you have assumed it(unless you wrote an incomplete question here :rolleyes:). And normally, we give answers in terms of stuff that's known to us. What do you think would be the value of r0 in known terms? :smile:
 
Ahhh ok I see now. The restoring force is balanced by the centrifugal force from the rotation. We can set r_{0}=0. The reason I included r_{0} is because for a harmonic oscillator, the mass oscillilates around the origin r_{0}. Any many cases it's defined to be zero. And I think your right, if we were to consider it in this problem it would have been given.

Thanks again for the help Infinitum.
 
AbigailM said:
Ahhh ok I see now. The restoring force is balanced by the centrifugal force from the rotation. We can set r_{0}=0. The reason I included r_{0} is because for a harmonic oscillator, the mass oscillilates around the origin r_{0}. Any many cases it's defined to be zero. And I think your right, if we were to consider it in this problem it would have been given.

Thanks again for the help Infinitum.

Looks correct now :smile:
 
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