Matrix represntation of angular momentum operator (QM)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the matrix representation of the angular momentum operator J(z) in quantum mechanics, using the rotation matrix R(q) for rotating a vector around the z-axis. Participants are exploring the relationship between the rotation matrix and the unitary operator associated with angular momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the unitary operator U(q) and its relation to the rotation matrix R(q). There is mention of expanding U(q) using a Taylor series and considering small angles for simplification. Some participants question the applicability of specific pages from a textbook and whether different editions might affect the content.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested a potential approach by working to first order in q and replacing trigonometric functions with their approximations for small angles. There is ongoing exploration of the relationship between R(q) and J(z), but no consensus has been reached on the method to derive J(z) from R(q).

Contextual Notes

Participants are referencing a specific textbook for guidance, and there is uncertainty regarding the consistency of content across different editions. The problem context involves assumptions about the behavior of the rotation matrix under small angle approximations.

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Homework Statement


The matrix R(q) for rotating an ordinary vector by q around the z-axis is given by@

cosq -sinq 0
sinq cosq 0
0 0 1

From R calculate the matrix J(z).

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution



All I know is that U(q) = exp[-iJ(z)q] is the unitary operator which rotates a system, and I believe that

R(q) x = U(dagger)(q) x U(q)

Where x is the position vector.

I have no idea where to go from here, other than expanding U with a taylor series but this didn't seem to go anywhere.

Thanks
 
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You will probably find page 315 and 316 of Shankar's Principles of Quantum Mechanic helpful.
 
AEM said:
You will probably find page 315 and 316 of Shankar's Principles of Quantum Mechanic helpful.

Thanks, but I still don't see how to do the question at all. Are the pages right - do they change with editions?
 
AEM said:
You will probably find page 315 and 316 of Shankar's Principles of Quantum Mechanic helpful.

My edition of Shankar is from 1981. By chance I was reviewing this topic the day before your original post. I'll spend some time thinking about it and see if I can help you out.
 
joker_900 said:

Homework Statement


The matrix R(q) for rotating an ordinary vector by q around the z-axis is given by@

cosq -sinq 0
sinq cosq 0
0 0 1

From R calculate the matrix J(z).

Homework Equations


-


The Attempt at a Solution



All I know is that U(q) = exp[-iJ(z)q] is the unitary operator which rotates a system, and I believe that

R(q) x = U(dagger)(q) x U(q)

Where x is the position vector.

I have no idea where to go from here, other than expanding U with a taylor series but this didn't seem to go anywhere.

Thanks

I think that the correct relation is simply R(q) = exp[-i Jz q].

Just work to first order in q. Then e^{-iJ_z q} \approx 1 - i J_z q (where 1 here is the unit matrix) . Replace cos(q) by 1 and sin(q) by q in the matrix R(q) and you will get the expression for Jz easily.
 
nrqed said:
I think that the correct relation is simply R(q) = exp[-i Jz q].

Just work to first order in q. Then e^{-iJ_z q} \approx 1 - i J_z q (where 1 here is the unit matrix) . Replace cos(q) by 1 and sin(q) by q in the matrix R(q) and you will get the expression for Jz easily.

I just logged on to make similar comments. Take the angle q to be very small, or infinitesimal, leads to the replacements given above.
 

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