Maximum compression of a spring?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on calculating the maximum compression of a spring when a 2-kilogram block is dropped from a height of 0.45 meters onto it. The user initially attempted to use the amplitude of simple harmonic motion, calculated as 0.367, and conservation of energy principles, equating potential energy (mgh) to spring energy (1/2 kx^2). The correct approach involves recognizing that at maximum compression, the potential energy should account for the total distance fallen, represented as mg(h+x), rather than just mgh. This adjustment leads to the correct calculation of maximum compression.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of simple harmonic motion and its amplitude
  • Knowledge of conservation of energy principles in physics
  • Familiarity with spring mechanics, specifically Hooke's Law
  • Ability to manipulate equations involving potential and kinetic energy
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation and application of Hooke's Law in spring systems
  • Learn how to apply conservation of energy in mechanical systems
  • Explore the relationship between potential energy and maximum compression in springs
  • Investigate the principles of simple harmonic motion in more complex systems
USEFUL FOR

Students studying physics, particularly those focusing on mechanics, as well as educators seeking to clarify concepts related to energy conservation and spring dynamics.

eri139
Messages
15
Reaction score
2
Homework Statement
A 2 kilogram block is dropped from a height of 0.45 meter above an uncompressed spring. The spring has an elastic constant of 150 newtons per meter and negligible mass. The block strikes the end of the spring and sticks to it. Determine the maximum compression of the spring.
Relevant Equations
U = 1/2kx^2, K = 1/2mv^2, U = mgh, F = kx
I found the amplitude of the simple harmonic motion that results (0.367, and I know this is correct because I entered it and it was marked as a correct answer), and assumed it would be the same value for the maximum compression since x(t) = Acos(wt). And, since the maximum value of cosine is 1, then the maximum value of x(t) would be A. But it's not correct. I also tried doubling this value, since I think the amplitude is the distance from the equilibrium position...so I'd double it to find the total compression. This is still incorrect.

Then I tried conservation of energy. I know the block has a potential energy of mgh, or 2 x 9.8 x 0.45. I made that equal to the energy of a spring, which is 1/2 x 150(x^2). Setting both equal to each other, I get 0.343, which is also incorrect.

Please help! I don't know what other approach to take for this question.
 
Last edited:
Physics news on Phys.org
eri139 said:
Homework Statement:: A 2 kilogram block is dropped from a height of 0.45 meter above an uncompressed spring. The spring has an elastic constant of 150 Newtons per meter and negligible mass. The block strikes the end of the spring and sticks to it. Determine the maximum compression of the spring.
Homework Equations:: U = 1/2kx^2, K = 1/2mv^2, U = mgh, F = kx

I found the amplitude of the simple harmonic motion that results (0.367, and I know this is correct because I entered it and it was marked as a correct answer), and assumed it would be the same value for the maximum compression since x(t) = Acos(wt). And, since the maximum value of cosine is 1, then the maximum value of x(t) would be A. But it's not correct. I also tried doubling this value, since I think the amplitude is the distance from the equilibrium position...so I'd double it to find the total compression. This is still incorrect.

Then I tried conservation of energy. I know the block has a potential energy of mgh, or 2 x 9.8 x 0.45. I made that equal to the energy of a spring, which is 1/2 x 150(x^2). Setting both equal to each other, I get 0.343, which is also incorrect.

Please help! I don't know what other approach to take for this question.
At maximum compression, the potential energy decreased by mg(h+x) instead of mgh.
 
ehild said:
At maximum compression, the potential energy decreased by mg(h+x) instead of mgh.
Thank you so much! that did it!
 

Similar threads

Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
3K
Replies
8
Views
6K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
837
Replies
9
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K