Minimum Orbital Radius Around Black Holes

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The discussion centers on the concept of minimum orbital radius around black holes, specifically noting that the minimum orbit is at 3 times the Schwarzschild radius (R_s). It highlights that to maintain such an orbit, an object would need to exceed the speed of light (c). The conversation extends this idea to other massive bodies, questioning if a similar minimum orbit exists for them. The photon sphere, located at 1.5 times the Schwarzschild radius, is referenced as a comparable concept for black holes. The discussion concludes with an acknowledgment of Birkhoff's theorem, suggesting that the characteristics of the photon sphere remain unchanged even if the density of the black hole is altered.
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I was reading one of my textbooks and I had a thought. For a black hole, there is minimum orbiting radius of ##R_{min}=3R_s## where ##R_s## is the Schwarzschild Radius. This minimum orbit is created by the fact that in order to obtain an orbit of that radius around a black hole, you would need to be traveling at a velocity exceeding ##c##. That's all good and dandy. However, wouldn't it be true that there exists a minimum orbit for any massive body due to the the velocity limit of c? In other words, if I am in an orbit around the Earth such that my velocity is equal to ##c##, what is my radius? Just something I thought up.
 
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The short answer is It's the same as the photon sphere around a black hole [hint, less than the radius of earth].
 
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The short answer is It's the same as the photon sphere around a black hole [hint, less than the radius of earth].
When you say "photon sphere" do you mean the sphere created by a radius such that ##r=1.5R_s## (for a black hole)?

Wait. I think I understand. If I think of it in terms of Birkhoff's theorem, if the density of a black hole were expanded to have the density of another object (say, the earth) then the photon sphere and ##R_s## would be unmoved but they would also be inside of the object. Is that kind of the hand-wavy gist of it?
 
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