Minimum Velocity for Pendulum to Clear Arc

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The discussion focuses on calculating the minimum velocity of a bullet needed for a pendulum to clear its arc after a collision. The conservation of momentum is applied to find the velocity of the pendulum-bullet system post-collision. Kinetic energy at the bottom is equated to potential energy at the top to derive the necessary conditions for the pendulum to reach the top of the arc. The final equation for the bullet's velocity is derived as v = (m+M)2√(gL)/m. The discussion also highlights the importance of correctly interpreting energy conservation principles and checking calculations for accuracy.
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Homework Statement



A pendulum consists of mass M hanging at the bottom of a mass-less rod of length L with a frictionless pivot at its top. A bullet of mass m and velocity v collides with M and gets embedded. What is the smallest velocity v of the bullet sufficient to cause the pendulum with the bullet to clear the top of the arc.

Homework Equations



mv=(m+M)v'
KE=\frac{1}{2}(m+M)v'^2
PE=(m+M)gh

The Attempt at a Solution



First I found out the velocity of the moving block.

mv=(m+M)v'
\frac{mv}{(m+M)}=v'

and KE_{bottom}=PE_{top}

\frac{1}{2}(m+M)v'^2=(m+M)g(2L)

plug in v'

\frac{1}{2}(m+M)\frac{{m^2}{v^2}}{(m+M)^2}=(m+M)2gL

cancel out (m+M)

\frac{1}{2}\frac{{m^2}{v^2}}{(m+M)}=(m+M)2gL

cross multiply

{m^2}{v^2}={(m+M)^2}2gL

divide by m^2

v^2=\frac{{(m+M)^2}2gL}{m^2}}

v=\frac{(m+M)\sqrt{4gL}}{m}

v=\frac{(m+M)\sqrt{4}\sqrt{gL}}{m}

v=\frac{(m+M)2\sqrt{gL}}{m}
 
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At the top of the arc, the velocity of M is not equal to zero because it clears the top.
 
but is it more or less correct?
 
The total energy at the top is
(m + M)*2gL + 1/2*(m + M)*v"^2
At the top acceleration v"^2/L = g. Or v"^2 = Lg. Sustitute this value in the above expression.
One more mistake.
Check the step from v^2 to v.
 
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