Model Rocket Propulsion: The Power of Hydrogen and Oxygen Combustion

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Hydrogen ejected from a model rocket and combusted with surrounding oxygen can potentially propel the rocket forward, but the propulsion may not be sustainable without proper design. A well-designed combustion chamber is crucial for achieving significant thrust, and the efficiency of the process can vary, with some propane systems showing low efficiency. The combustion chamber needs to allow fuel to enter at supersonic speeds to create a ram effect, which enhances air intake and combustion efficiency. This design differs from traditional rocket engines, which carry both fuel and oxidizer onboard. Understanding the ram effect is essential for optimizing the propulsion system.
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If say hydrogen is ejected out of the tail of a model rocket and combusted with O2 of the surrounding air, will that propel the model rocket forward and will the propulsion be sustainable?
 
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It is a fairly common method using propane. Try searching for pressure jet. Hydrogen will combust much faster so some adjustments will probably be needed.

To get any significant thrust you need a properly designed combustion chamber.
 
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Thank you for the reply.

So in effect, the expansion of hot gases is fast enough that it poses no significant barrier to the entry of oxygen in the combustion chamber from the outside air?

For a fairly large combustion chamber, is the process more efficient than say 40-50%?
 
The fuel must enter the combustion chamber at supersonic speed to pull in the air and generate the ram effect that makes it work. The propane ones I have seen had a very low efficiency.
 
You are referring to bringing oxygen from the outside, mixing it with hydrogen in a combustion chamber and expelling that?

I see no reason why it wouldn't work. It's not a 'rocket' engine if you use that design, however. 'Rocket' implies both fuel and oxidizer are carried onboard.
 
Bjørn Bæverfjord said:
The fuel must enter the combustion chamber at supersonic speed to pull in the air and generate the ram effect that makes it work. The propane ones I have seen had a very low efficiency.

what is "ram effect"?
 
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