Momentum/Impulse- Calculating Average Force of Raindrops

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the average force exerted by rain on a roof, given the volume of rain, the time duration, and the dimensions of the roof. The subject area encompasses concepts of momentum and impulse in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the mass of rain and is uncertain about how to proceed with finding the average force. They question whether to use the total mass over the entire time interval or a smaller mass over a shorter duration. Some participants suggest that knowing the initial velocity of the rain is crucial for determining the change in momentum.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the initial velocity of the rain and its impact on the calculated force. Some guidance has been offered regarding the potential velocity of raindrops, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of an answer key that provides a specific answer, but participants express uncertainty about the calculations leading to that answer. The discussion also touches on the potential mixing of units in the provided solution.

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Homework Statement


The problem says:
"A record rainstorm produced 304.8 mm (approximately 1 ft)
of rain in 42 min. Estimate the average force that the rain exerted
on the roof of a house that measures 10 m * 16 m. Indicate
any assumptions you made. (Note: density of water is 1000 kg/m3"

Homework Equations


Volume= lwh
Favg=ΔP/ΔT
ΔP= mΔV

The Attempt at a Solution


I determined the mass of the rain that fell in the 42 minute/2520 second interval to be 48,768kg and the mass of rain to fall in one second to be 19.35kg.
From there I am absolutely at a loss of what to do to figure out the average force. Assuming that the final velocity of the rain is 0, I'm thinking that I need the initial velocity of the rain in order to figure out the change in momentum.
The answer itself isn't a problem, as I was given a key, but I'm not sure if I should use the mass of all of the rain and 2520 seconds as Δt or use 19.35kg and 1 second as Δt. I'm just really not sure where to go after calculating the masses of the amounts of rain.
The key says the answer is 2x10-4 N, but I can't figure out how to get to that answer.
 
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MadTay said:
thinking that I need the initial velocity of the rain
Which is absolutely correct. Large raindrops in a torrential downpour might be moving 10 m/s. That and the mass rate you've calculated eventually give you a number that's for force ~ 2, but the order of magnitude is off by a factor of 6. Whoever solved it for the answer key probably used 10 m/s for the fall rate, but mixed grams and tons.
 
Bystander said:
Which is absolutely correct. Large raindrops in a torrential downpour might be moving 10 m/s. That and the mass rate you've calculated eventually give you a number that's for force ~ 2, but the order of magnitude is off by a factor of 6. Whoever solved it for the answer key probably used 10 m/s for the fall rate, but mixed grams and tons.

Whew! Glad to know it wasn't a lack of knowledge on my part that was stopping me from getting to that answer. Thank you very much for your help!
 

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