Moving electron under two magnetic fields

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force on an electron subjected to two magnetic fields, with a focus on the relationship between force and time. Participants are exploring the implications of given parameters, such as the mass of the electron, and the information provided in the problem statement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the necessity of accounting for the mass of the electron and question the relevance of certain variables, such as position and velocity, in the context of the problem. There is also a consideration of whether the problem requires a trajectory calculation or simply the force at a specific time.

Discussion Status

There appears to be a shared understanding among participants regarding the need to focus on the force at a specific time rather than calculating a trajectory. Some guidance has been offered regarding the direct calculation of force using the relevant equation, although no consensus on the exact approach has been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of information regarding specific values at a point in time, which may affect the calculations. The problem constraints and the absence of certain variables are acknowledged as part of the discussion.

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Homework Statement
A coil ##\vec{B}## a current of intensity ##i## created in ##M## a magnetic field ##\vec{B}_1##. A magnet ##A## created in ##M## a magnetic field ##\vec{B}_2## .

What is the force undergone by a charge particle ##q## with a velocity ##\vec{v}## that is in ##M## at time ##t## ?

Taking into account the mass of the electron.
Relevant Equations
##F=q\cdot v\cdot B\cdot\sin(\vec{v},\vec{B})##
Moving_particle_2_mag_fields_with_vectors_on_M.svg.png


In this question, I would have to calculate the force in respect to time. However, the question gives me the value of the mass of the electron. In my attempt, I didn't take that into account. I just replaced ##v## with ##\frac{d}{t}## and made the Lorentz force undergone by the particle inversely proportional, but this is probably not correct.
 
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Hi,

merdeka said:
the force in respect to time
I think the exercise asks for the force at time ##t## and doesn't want you to calculate a trajectory. (For which there is no information given anyway)
 
BvU said:
Hi,

I think the exercise asks for the force at time ##t## and doesn't want you to calculate a trajectory. (For which there is no information given anyway)
The question didn't give any information or value for a point in time.
 
So we agree on that. At time ##t##, position, velocity and field are known. There is no ##d## in the problem and you don't need it. Calculate in a straightforward manner with the equation you mention..
 

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