Multiplier Circuits: Get Info Here

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The discussion revolves around multiplier circuits, specifically focusing on analog multipliers. Participants share various types of multipliers, historical context, and technical details related to their designs and applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the specific type of multipliers being discussed, noting categories such as voltage, frequency, photo, digital, and analog multipliers.
  • One participant mentions the AD835 analog multiplier from Analog Devices as a reference.
  • A suggestion is made to research the Gilbert cell, credited to Barrie Gilbert, which is noted for its use in variable gain control and RF mixing.
  • Technical details are provided about the six transistor design and its limitations regarding analytic functions due to a lack of distortion reduction circuitry.
  • Another participant describes a one quadrant multiplier based on logarithmic amplifiers and references a National Semiconductor document for further reading.
  • Alternative techniques for multiplication are discussed, including PWM methods and the advantages of digital methods over analog approaches.
  • A historical note is made regarding earlier multipliers that utilized potentiometers and servo motors, as well as a parabolic multiplier design using resistors and diodes.

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Participants express varying opinions on the effectiveness and stability of analog versus digital methods for multiplication, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach. Additionally, there are differing historical perspectives on the development of multiplier circuits.

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Some claims about specific designs and their applications are not fully substantiated, and there are references to external documents that may contain additional information. The discussion includes assumptions about the audience's familiarity with technical terms and concepts.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in electronics, circuit design, and the historical development of multiplier circuits, particularly in the context of analog technology.

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I need to get information about multiplier circuits.

Thanks,
 
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I was suppose to say Analog multipliers.
 
runo said:
I was suppose to say Analog multipliers.

What do you find when you use Google or wikipedia.org? We would prefer that you ask an informed question here, rather than an open-ended question with many long answers possible. Especially if it is for schoolwork.
 
Look at the Analog Devices 250 MHz, 4 quadrant AD835 analog multiplier.
Bob S
 
You might try researching under Gilbert cell. Barrie Gilbert is the inventor of the multiplier. He came up with it as variable gain control for use in Tek scopes.

There are two incarnations out there. One is a six transistor design that is used for RF mixing (reference SA612). These are not suited to analytic functions because they lack the distortion reduction circuitry found in Gilbert's original design.

The following site has the internal schematic for Gilbert's original multiplier:
http://www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn2477.pdf
The circuit is on page 5 and the critical elements are the two transistors in the upper left corner. They pre-distort the voltage to the multiplier cell, thus linearizing it.

In addition to this circuit, there is the one quadrant multiplier, which is based on log and antilog amps. National has a good treatment on this:
http://www.national.com/an/AN/AN-30.pdf#page=1

There are other techniques as well, such as converting value x into a PWM and using it to actuate an analog switch to chop between value y and 0 volts. The output is then filtered to remove the high frequency noise from the PWM carrier.

In all these techniques, though, none is as cost effective and stable as pulling you signal into the digital domain. I've repeatedly started to use an analog method, and I keep going back to digital.

- Mike
 
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Here is a multiplier (mixer) using four diodes. I show it multiplying 550 kHz and 5.5 MHz.
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Many thanks!
 
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There were earlier multipliers that used potentiometers tied to servo motors (god help it if a piece of dirt got in the servo pot!)

There was also the parabolic multiplier, which used long strings of resistors and diodes to approximate x^2.

ab = [ (a+b)^2 - (a-b)^4 ] / 4

Mike
 

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