Multivariable calculus: Length of curve

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Homework Statement


Find the length of the curve traced by the given vector function on the indicated interval.
r(t)=<t, tcost, tsint> ; 0<t<pi


Homework Equations



s= ∫||r'(t)||dt

The Attempt at a Solution



r'(t) = <1, -tsint + cost, tcost + sint>
s= ∫||r'(t)||dt

||r'(t)|| = sqrt(1^2+(-tsint+cost)^2+(tcost+sint)^2)
||r'(t)|| = sqrt(1+t^2sin^2t-2tsintcost+cos^2t+t^2cos^t+2tsintcost+sin^2t)
||r'(t)|| = sqrt(1 + t^2sin^2t+t^2cos^2t+sin^2t+cos^2t)

I'm not sure where to go from here. I was thinking of using the trig identity sin^2x+cos^2x= 1, but I don't think I can do that.
 
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Minusu said:
||r'(t)|| = sqrt(1 + t^2sin^2t+t^2cos^2t+sin^2t+cos^2t)

I'm not sure where to go from here. I was thinking of using the trig identity sin^2x+cos^2x= 1, but I don't think I can do that.
Why not?
 
I'd end up with sqrt(2+t^2), but then I don't know how to integrate that from 0 to pi. At first, I tried u-substitution, so u =2+t^2, du=2tdt, du/2=tdt, but there is no tdt outside the sqrt so that I can substitute.
 
Minusu said:
I'd end up with sqrt(2+t^2), but then I don't know how to integrate that from 0 to pi. At first, I tried u-substitution, so u =2+t^2, du=2tdt, du/2=tdt, but there is no tdt outside the sqrt so that I can substitute.
Try integration by parts.
 
:S isn't what I'm doing integration by parts? Or do you mean separate it into two integrals? I don't think you can do that with a sqrt sign
 
Minusu said:
:S isn't what I'm doing integration by parts? Or do you mean separate it into two integrals? I don't think you can do that with a sqrt sign
No, what you did before was substitution. Your integral is $$I= \int_0^\pi \sqrt{t^2 + 2}\,dt$$ Let ##u = \sqrt{t^2+ 2}## and ##dv = dt##. With one application of integration of parts, you will get a form that appears to not be any simpler: $$t \sqrt{t^2 + 2}|_0^\pi - \int_0^\pi t \frac{t}{\sqrt{t^2 + 2}}dt$$What I thought you could then do was use integ by parts again, but this only leads to the completely trivial statement ##I= I##
I'll think over it some more - maybe a hyperbolic substitution would be useful.
 
Try the substitution t = √2 tan x.
 
CAF123 said:
Try the substitution t = √2 tan x.
I think √2 sinh x works out a little more easily.
 
haruspex said:
I think √2 sinh x works out a little more easily.
Yes, I agree.
 
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