Multivariable calculus. The chain rule.

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Homework Statement



Let x=x^2ysin(u)tan(v), where x(u,v) and y(u,v) are smooth functions that, when evaluated at u=1 and v=-3 satisfy

x=2.112, y=4.797, \partialx/\partialu = -3.491, \partialx/\partialv = -2.230 , \partialy/\partialu = 1.787 , \partialy/\partialv = 1.554.

Then the value of \partialz/\partialu + ln ( \partialz/\partialv), at u =1, v= -3 is one of the following:

9.004
-1.225
-3.257
3.896
6.469
-2.368
-9.311
-3.658


The Attempt at a Solution



\partialz/\partialu= (2(2.112)(4.797)sin(1)tan(-3))(-3.491) + (2.112^2 sin(1)tan(2.112))(1.787) = 0.057407948

\partialz/\partialv=(2(2.112)(4.797)sin(1)tan(-3))(-2.230) + (2.112^2 sin(1)tan(-3))(1.554) = 0.034988483

0.057407948 + ln(0.034988483) = -3.295


The answer, which you can tell, is not even a solution on the list of possible answers. Any insight to where I went wrong would be appreciated! Thanks in advance!
 
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i think that you write some formulas wrong (you have mistake in writing) .
 
letalea said:

Homework Statement



Let x=x^2ysin(u)tan(v)
This would make more sense as z = x2y sin(u) tan(v).
letalea said:
, where x(u,v) and y(u,v) are smooth functions that, when evaluated at u=1 and v=-3 satisfy

x=2.112, y=4.797, \partialx/\partialu = -3.491, \partialx/\partialv = -2.230 , \partialy/\partialu = 1.787 , \partialy/\partialv = 1.554.

Then the value of \partialz/\partialu + ln ( \partialz/\partialv), at u =1, v= -3 is one of the following:

9.004
-1.225
-3.257
3.896
6.469
-2.368
-9.311
-3.658


The Attempt at a Solution



\partialz/\partialu= (2(2.112)(4.797)sin(1)tan(-3))(-3.491) + (2.112^2 sin(1)tan(2.112))(1.787) = 0.057407948

\partialz/\partialv=(2(2.112)(4.797)sin(1)tan(-3))(-2.230) + (2.112^2 sin(1)tan(-3))(1.554) = 0.034988483

0.057407948 + ln(0.034988483) = -3.295


The answer, which you can tell, is not even a solution on the list of possible answers. Any insight to where I went wrong would be appreciated! Thanks in advance!
 
Yes sorry, it was a posting mistake, the question was z=x^2ysin(u)tan(v). Can you see any errors in how I solved the partial derivatives, as I have tried multiple times and can not seem to find the correct solution.
 
So you have z = x2(u, v) y(u, v) sin(u) tan(v).

Before putting in all the numbers, what do you get for zu and zv?

zu is just another way of writing \frac{\partial z}{\partial u}
 
Okay I hope this is what you were wanting me to answer...

\partialz/\partialu = (\partialz/\partialx) (\partialx/\partialu) + (\partialz/\partialy)(\partialy/\partialu)

=(2xysin(u)tan(v))(\partialx/\partialu) +(x^2sin(u)tan(v))(\partialy/\partialu)

\partialz/\partialv= (\partialz/\partialx) (\partialx/\partialv) + (\partialz/\partialy)(\partialy/\partialv)

=(2xysin(u)tan(v))(\partialx/\partialv) + (x^2sin(u)tan(v))(\partialy/\partialv)
 
That looks OK. It will be easier to evaluate all the functions and partials using subscript notation.

So zu = 2xysin(u)tan(v) xu + x2sin(u)tan(v) yu

and zv = 2xysin(u)tan(v) xv + x2sin(u)tan(v) yv


You have x(1, -3) = 2.112, y(1, -3) = 4.7997
xu(1, -3) = -3.491
xv(1, -3) = -2.230
yu(1, -3) = 1.787
yv(1, -3) = 1.554

You need to evaluate zu(1, -3) + ln(zv(1, -3))

Plug the function/partial derivative values in. Make sure your calculator is in radian mode when you evaluate sin(1) and tan(-3).
 
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Thank you I will give that a try!
 
I am working on this question as well. Though, upon evaluating ln(Zv) I came out with a negative number, and ln of a negative is not valid. What did I do wrong?
ln(2(2.112)(4.797)sin(1)tan(-3)(-2.230) + ((2.112^2)sin(1)tan(-3)(1.554))) = Zv

I'm certain the partail derivative is correct, I've gone over it and tried to manipulate different ways, but still not the right answer.
 
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I didn't check letalea's work closely back in post #7, and the partial derivatives shown there are missing a term in each of them.

Assuming z = x2y * sin(u) * tan(v), where x = x(u, v) and y = y(u, v) as described earlier, then

zu = 2x * xu * y * sin(u) * tan(v) + x2 *yu * sin(u) * tan(v) + x2 * y * cos(u) * tan(v)

In letalea's work, that last term is missing.

Also,
zv = 2x * xv * y * sin(u) * tan(v) + x2 *yv * sin(u) * tan(v) + x2 * y * sin(u) * sec2(v)

The last term is missing in this partial, as well.

For a sanity check, evaluate zv at (1, -3) to see if it comes up positive this time (so you can take its log).
 
  • #11
Thank you, that was very helpful! I was wondering if I needed to evaluate the trig function in relation to u! :)
 
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