My Proof of Structure Theorem for Finite Abelian Groups

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The discussion revolves around a proof concerning the structure theorem for finite abelian groups, specifically focusing on the decomposition into direct products of cyclic subgroups. Participants provide feedback on the proof's validity and offer corrections and suggestions for improvement.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests feedback on their proof of the structure theorem for finite abelian groups, expressing a need for assistance with formal writing and LaTeX.
  • Another participant challenges the validity of Lemma 1, providing a counterexample involving a cyclic group and demonstrating that the claim about the quotient group is incorrect.
  • The counterexample illustrates that the order of the element does not equate to the order of the quotient group, highlighting a flaw in the original proof's reasoning.
  • Subsequent posts reflect on the initial misunderstanding regarding the relationship between the order of elements and the order of quotient groups, indicating a need for further revision of the proof.
  • A participant acknowledges the effort in the proof and encourages the original poster to revise and share an updated version, noting that the writing style and LaTeX usage are commendable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the proof, as there is a clear disagreement regarding the correctness of Lemma 1 and its implications. The discussion remains unresolved with competing views on the proof's accuracy.

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The discussion highlights limitations in the original proof, particularly concerning the assumptions made about the orders of elements and quotient groups. The specific mathematical steps leading to the conclusion of Lemma 1 are not fully resolved.

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Hello! If anybody has a minute, I'd appreciate a quick look-through of my proof that a finite abelian group can be decomposed into a direct product of cyclic subgroups. I'm new to formal writing (as well as Latex) and all feedback is greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance for your time!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/130897466/Structure-of-Finite-Abelian-Groups-Brian-Blake
 
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Your Lemma 1 is not valid. Consider for example a cyclic group ##G = \langle x\rangle## with ##|G| = p^2##. The subgroup ##H = \langle x^p \rangle## has order ##p##, so ##G/H## and ##H## are both cyclic with order ##p##. But clearly ##G/H \times H## is not cyclic; it has order ##p^2## but any element has order ##1## or ##p##.

The problem is your claim that ##\phi(g_1 g_2) = (x^{k+j}H, h_1 h_2)##. This is not true in general. Let's take a concrete example with ##G## as above.

Suppose ##p = 3##, so ##G = \{e, x, x^2, \ldots x^8\}##, and ##H = \{e, x^3, x^6\}##, and ##G/H = \{H, xH, x^2 H\}##.

Take ##g_1 = x^{4} = x^1 x^3 \in x H## and ##g_2 = x^{5} = x^2 x^3 \in x^2 H##. Then ##g_1 g_2 = x^{9} = e = x^0 x^0 \in H##.

Then:
$$\phi(g_1) = (x H, x^{3})$$
$$\phi(g_2) = (x^2 H, x^{3})$$
but
$$\phi(g_1 g_2) = (H, x^{0})$$
whereas
$$\phi(g_1)\phi(g_2) = (x H \cdot x^2 H, x^{3}\cdot x^{3}) = (H, x^{6}) \neq \phi(g_1 g_2)$$
 
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Sorry, I had to make a few minor edits. Please refresh if you've already read the post.
 
Thank you very much! I guess I was thinking incorrectly that the order of x was also the order of the quotient group. Back to the drawing board!
 
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Thank you very much! I guess I was thinking incorrectly that the order of x was also the order of the quotient group. Back to the drawing board!
No problem, feel free to post an update when you have a revised proof. It was a good attempt - I knew the conclusion of Lemma 1 was wrong, but it took me a while to spot the problem with your proof.

Also, your writing style and Latex are good, so nothing to worry about there.
 

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