Solving Static Friction Problem with Block Weights | Physics Homework Help

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The discussion revolves around solving a static friction problem involving two blocks, where block m1 weighs 875 N and has a static friction coefficient of 0.24 at an angle of 25 degrees. The user calculated the maximum weight of block m2 that keeps block m1 at rest and arrived at approximately 97.9 N, which they doubted due to the computer's feedback. Other participants confirmed the calculation, suggesting that the answer is indeed correct and that the issue might lie in the input format or misunderstanding of the question. The conversation highlights the importance of considering static friction forces and the correct interpretation of weight versus mass in physics problems.
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Hi, I have a problem here and I need some help on it. The problem is this:

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block m_{1} weighs 875 N. The coefficient of static friction between the block and the table is 0.24 and the angle theta is 25.0\circ. Find the maximum weight of block m_{2} for which block m_{1} will remain at rest.

2. The attempt at a solution

So far I've drawn an FBD for m_{1}, m_{2}, and the knot that connects them.

For the block m_{1}, I have T_{1} = M_{s}N in the x-direction, and N = m_{1}g for the y-direction.

For block m_{2}, I have T_{2} = m_{2}g in the y-direction.

For the knot, I have T_{1} = T_{3}*cos(25) in the x-direction and T_{2} = T_{3}*sin(25) in the y-direction.



Since T_{1} = T_{3}*cos(25), and T_{1} = M_{s}N, I set T_{3}*cos(25) = M_{s}N and solving for T_{3}, I get T_{3} = (M_{s}N)/(cos(25))

In the knot, we have T_{2} = T_{3}*sin(25). I plug in the T_{3} derived earlier and T_{2} = m_{2}g into this equation to get m_{2}g = M_{s}*m_{1}g*tan(25)

When I plug in numbers, the answer I get is about 98, and that just doesn't seem right to me. Did I do something wrong? Thanks for the help in advance.
 
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I get the same answer as you. 97.9N. Why do you think it is the wrong answer?
 
learningphysics said:
I get the same answer as you. 97.9N. Why do you think it is the wrong answer?

I've tried putting that in as the answer, but the computer says it isn't correct.
 
Xiongster said:
I've tried putting that in as the answer, but the computer says it isn't correct.

Did you put in 98 or 97.9? Maybe they want the mass and not the weight? I'm not sure...
 
learningphysics said:
Did you put in 98 or 97.9? Maybe they want the mass and not the weight? I'm not sure...

When I put it in, it wants the units as Newtons, so I'm sure it's weight. But now that I have a second opinion, I'll just argue with the professor if it's wrong =]. Thanks!
 
Did you neglect the static friction force?

which would be 210N.. So whatever Tension you assigned to the rope being pulled horizontally would be a maximum of 210N
 
Yes it seems you did cause I also get 97.9N as the answer...

If it helps I am also a Physics teacher for the sake of your arguement.
 
I did the problem, and I also got 97.9 N. Just to let you feel more secure about it :)
 
Alright! Thanks everyone!
 
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