Need to design a sensing circuit

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The discussion revolves around designing a sensing circuit for a college project that detects small forces using a material called QTC, which changes conductivity under applied force. Participants explore various circuit designs to activate LEDs based on predetermined force thresholds, including the use of Schmitt triggers and op-amps.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using two series circuits with pressure switches and Schmitt triggers to activate different LEDs based on force levels.
  • Another proposes a window detector using a single op-amp, which can trigger on two predefined occasions based on a resistor network.
  • A different participant recommends using two op-amp comparators to avoid loading the sensor, allowing for adjustable thresholds with resistances.
  • Another option mentioned is using a force-dependent resistor or a load cell as alternatives for sensing forces.

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Participants present multiple competing views on circuit design, with no consensus on a single approach. Various methods are proposed, each with different components and configurations.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with electronics, which may affect the complexity of the proposed solutions. There are also assumptions regarding the effectiveness of different components and configurations that remain unverified.

Who May Find This Useful

Students or hobbyists interested in electronics, particularly those working on sensing circuits or projects involving force detection.

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Hi iam looking for help with a college project i am doing, it is for sensing forces but the forces are only small. I am using a material called QTC( which changes from an insulator to a conductor when a force is applied to it). I am not doing electronics at college, so i only have a limited knowledge of electronics and circuits. How would i design a circuit that would switch on an LED at a certain predetermined force, then if the force is too high it would then switch on alternate LED. if this sounds at all possible could somebody suggest a circuit to use, as i have said i am a novice when it comes to electronics. I have come across schmitt triggers but i do not know how they work. thank you in advance.
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you could have two series circuits coming from a source like a battery...with one of those pressure switches under some padding...going into the schmitt trigger turning on LED A

have the other pressure switch under some MORE padding under the first one, hooked up the same way. Might use a transistor to get the right Vcc for the Schmitt triggers.

Then just do some physics calculations, experimentation, and tweaking until you have the right padding to close the pressure switches with the correct force

That's how I'd do it but I'm a bootleg college student
 
You can either use the solution suggested by Number2Pencil or you can get away with ONE opamp that does the job for you: it's called a window detector, it is like 2 Schmitt-triggers in one ;)

Basically, window detector is a device which will trigger on two occasions which are predefined by a resistor network that surrounds the opamp. So basically you'll have two trigger levels with some margin (window) which you define by resistor-setting.
 
I would probably take the output from your sensor to two op amp comparitors. This way you wouldn't be loading you sensor.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electronic/compar.html#c1"

The comparitors will each have a threshold that you can set by your choice of resistances. (you could use a variable resistor; R1 in the linked circuit)

Regards
 
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You could use a force depandant resistor or a load cell depending on what you are doing.
 

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