Network Maximum Power Transfer Calculation

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The discussion revolves around calculating the load impedance for maximum power transfer in a circuit using Thevenin's theorem. Participants clarify that the frequency of the AC source is crucial for determining the impedance of reactive components, and they emphasize that the load impedance should be the complex conjugate of the Thevenin impedance. There is confusion regarding the voltage source's representation, with suggestions to assume a 1V source for simplification. The conversation highlights the importance of separating real and imaginary components in impedance calculations and the necessity of deriving power dissipated in terms of real values. The maximum power transfer theorem is reiterated as a fundamental principle in this analysis.
  • #51
shaltera said:
Zth=330.3+j219.8

Pmax=1V2/4(330.3-J219.8) ?

There should be no imaginary values in the consumed power. Consumed power is a real quantity. What did you get for your Thevenin voltage? (it should be an expression containing the variable E, which is the unknown source voltage).
 
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  • #52
e=(V1xZ2)/Z1+Z2

But I don't have a source voltage, just a frequency of 50Hz which I used to calculate Xl?

OK if I assume that my source has avoltage of 1V,then e=1000/1220=1.2V (th voltage)

Pmax=1.22/(330.3+j219.8)
 
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  • #53
shaltera said:
e=(V1xZ2)/Z1+Z2

But I don't have a source voltage, just a frequency of 50Hz which I used to calculate Xl?

OK if I assume that my source has avoltage of 1V,then e=1000/1220=1.2V (th voltage)

Pmax=1.22/(330.3+j219.8)

Just let the source voltage be the symbol "E". Then your Thevenin voltage is (1000/1220)E.

Now, what impedance does this Thevenin voltage "see" when the circuit is complete?
 
  • #54
I'm not sure.Is it Z2?
 
  • #55
Draw the circuit --- components are Vth, Zth, ZL. Plug in the values of Zth and ZL. What is Vth "seeing"?
 
  • #56
What's the net equivalent impedance?
 
  • #57
Zth?
 
  • #58
shaltera said:
Zth?

What is Zth? What is the load impedance ZL? How are they connected in the circuit? What then is the net impedance?
 
  • #59
Zeq=Zl(Vl/Vs-1)
 
  • #60
shaltera said:
Zeq=Zl(Vl/Vs-1)

There are no voltages in an impedance. You have two impedances: Zth and ZL. What are they (you spent much time calculating them!)?
 
  • #61
Zth=(330.3+j219)
Zl=(330.3-j219)
 
  • #62
shaltera said:
Zth=(330.3+j219)
Zl=(330.3-j219)

Okay, and how are they connected in the circuit?
 
  • #63
In series
 
  • #64
Znet=Zth+Zl=660.6?
 
  • #65
shaltera said:
Znet=Zth+Zl=660.6?

Yes! :smile:

Note that the reactive components have completely disappeared. The choice for ZL as the complex conjugate of Zth has ensured that the reactive components cancel each other.

So for purposes of analysis at this point, the source impedance is just a real resistance of 330Ω, and the load impedance is just a real resistance 0f 330Ω. Two resistors! Easy to analyze!

Can you find the power in that load resistor? Remember that the source voltage is Vth.
 
  • #66
P=i2Rl
 
  • #67
That'll work; So how will you calculate the current? Remember, the load circuit now comprises the Thevenin voltage (1000/1220)E and two resistors of the same size (330 Ω).

(Actually, the notion that the two resistors form a voltage divider might give you another path to finding the power, particularly since it's a very simple voltage divider with equal value resistors...)
 
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  • #68
I=Vth/(Zth+Rl)
 
  • #69
shaltera said:
I=Vth/(Zth+Rl)

Remember: The voltage source Vth sees ONLY the resistances. The reactive (imaginary) part of Zth has "disappeared", cancelling with the reactive part of the load impedance.
 
  • #70
Zth=(330.3+j219)
Zl=(330.3-j219)

I=E(1000/1220)(330.3)
 
  • #71
shaltera said:
Zth=(330.3+j219)
Zl=(330.3-j219)

I=E(1000/1220)(330.3)

Close. Both the Thevenin and Load resistors are still there. You've only accounted for one of them.

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If you consider the voltage divider created by the two EQUAL resistors, what must be the potential across the load resistor RL?
 

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