Newtonian fluid in compressible flow?

In summary, When taking into account compressible effects, viscosity will vary with temperature but the shear stress will still be linearly proportional to the strain rate through the viscosity. This does not violate the concept of Newtonian fluids, as the definition only states that the shear stress is proportional to the strain rate, regardless of temperature or density. However, fluids with varying viscosities with temperature are considered non-Newtonian.
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When compressible effects are accounted for, viscosity should vary with temperature.
Doesn't this violate the concept of Newtonian fluids, where shear stress is linearly proportional to the strain rate?
 
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No. The shear stress is still linearly proportional to the strain rate through the viscosity. It's simply the case that viscosity may not be constant. That said, viscosity varies quite slowly with temperature so the Mach number has to be relatively high to start getting the kind of heating required for the effect to be all that noticeable.
 
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boneh3ad said:
No. The shear stress is still linearly proportional to the strain rate through the viscosity. It's simply the case that viscosity may not be constant. That said, viscosity varies quite slowly with temperature so the Mach number has to be relatively high to start getting the kind of heating required for the effect to be all that noticeable.
Oh, so if the viscosity becomes a function of the strain rate. In that case, it would violate Newtonian fluid?
 
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charlies1902 said:
Oh, so if the viscosity becomes a function of the strain rate. In that case, it would violate Newtonian fluid?
Yes. We call such fluids non-Newtonian fluids.

Incidentally, for liquids, the viscosity varies pretty rapidly with temperature. Typical values are a few percent per degree C.

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Chestermiller said:
Yes. We call such fluids non-Newtonian fluids.

Incidentally, for liquids, the viscosity varies pretty rapidly with temperature. Typical values are a few percent per degree C.

Chet
But even if the viscosity varies with temperature, it doesn't necessarily mean it is a non-Newtonian fluid right?
As long as the viscosity does not vary with the strain rate, the shear stress is still a linear function of the strain rate, even if the viscosity is varying with other parameters?
 
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charlies1902 said:
But even if the viscosity varies with temperature, it doesn't necessarily mean it is a non-Newtonian fluid right?
As long as the viscosity does not vary with the strain rate, the shear stress is still a linear function of the strain rate, even if the viscosity is varying with other parameters?
There are all sorts of fluids where the viscosity varies with temperature and these fluids are Newtonian. Many heavy oils are heated to make them easier to pump by reducing their viscosity.

Remember, the definition states that the shear is linearly proportional to the strain rate. The definition is silent on whether temperature is considered. It's also silent on whether density makes a difference: there are relatively light Newtonian fluids and relatively heavy ones.
 
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charlies1902 said:
But even if the viscosity varies with temperature, it doesn't necessarily mean it is a non-Newtonian fluid right?
As long as the viscosity does not vary with the strain rate, the shear stress is still a linear function of the strain rate, even if the viscosity is varying with other parameters?
Right (like SteamKing said).
 

Related to Newtonian fluid in compressible flow?

What is a Newtonian fluid?

A Newtonian fluid is a type of fluid that follows Newton's law of viscosity, which states that the rate of deformation of the fluid is directly proportional to the shear stress applied to it. This means that the viscosity, or resistance to flow, of a Newtonian fluid remains constant regardless of the shear rate.

What is compressible flow?

Compressible flow is a type of fluid flow in which the density of the fluid changes as a result of pressure and temperature variations. This type of flow is typically observed in gases, where changes in pressure and temperature can significantly affect the fluid's density.

How does compressible flow affect Newtonian fluids?

In compressible flow, the density of the fluid is not constant, which can affect its viscosity. For Newtonian fluids, this means that the viscosity can change as a result of changes in pressure and temperature. In some cases, this can cause the fluid to become non-Newtonian, meaning it no longer follows Newton's law of viscosity.

What are some examples of Newtonian fluids in compressible flow?

Some common examples of Newtonian fluids in compressible flow include air, water vapor, and some types of oil and gas. These fluids are typically encountered in everyday life, such as in weather patterns, gas pipelines, and hydraulic systems.

How is compressible flow of Newtonian fluids studied?

Scientists and engineers use mathematical equations and computational models to study the behavior of Newtonian fluids in compressible flow. These models take into account factors such as pressure, temperature, and fluid properties to predict how the fluid will behave under different conditions.

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