Newton's 2nd Law and Orbital Motion

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The discussion revolves around applying Newton's 2nd Law to understand orbital motion in a magnetic field. A user seeks guidance on deriving the frequency of a charged particle's circular motion using the relativistic form of the law. Key equations are provided, including the magnetic force on a charge and the relationship between velocity and angular frequency. The conversation highlights the transition from classical to relativistic analysis, emphasizing the substitution of B with B/γ. Ultimately, the user is encouraged to leverage classical mechanics principles to solve the problem effectively.
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Here's the problem...unfortunately I don't remember much about orbital motion. I'm a bit stuck on where to begin. If somebody could give me a little advice on how to tackle this problem I would appreciate it.

Recall that the magnetic force on a charge q moving with velocity v in a magnetic field B is equal to qvXB. If a charged particle moves in a circular orbit with a fixed speed v in the presence of a constant magnetic field, use the relativistic form of Newton's 2nd law to show that the frequency of its orbital motion is

f=((qB)/(2pim))(1-(v^2/c^2))^(1/2)
 
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If the speed is constant then

\frac {d \vec v}{dt} = \vec v \times \vec \Omega

where \vec \Omega = q \vec B / m_0. There are a number of ways to proceed from here but it should be apparent that the same analysis you did in the classical case will work except that B is replaced by B / \gamma from which your result follows.
 
still stuck

Still stuck since I don't really remember the classical case.
 
In that case, consider ...

\frac {d v_x} {dt} = \Omega v_y

and

\frac {d v_y} {dt } = - \Omega v_x

Differentiate, say, the first and substitute the second into the first:

\frac {d^2 v_x} {dt^2} = - \Omega^2 v_x

from which it should be evident that the motion is sinusoidal with frequency \Omega.
 
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