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The problem involves two uniform masses and a smaller mass released from a point influenced by gravitational forces. The context is rooted in Newton's laws of motion and gravitational attraction, with a focus on calculating the acceleration of the smaller mass based on the forces exerted by the larger masses.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of gravitational force and the importance of using the correct distance between the masses. There is an exploration of how to properly account for vector components in the force calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's calculations regarding the distance used in the force equation. There is ongoing clarification about how to correctly determine the components of the gravitational force acting on the smaller mass.

Contextual Notes

Participants are addressing the assumption that the distance between the masses is 0.06 m, which has been identified as incorrect. The discussion emphasizes the need to use the actual distance for accurate force calculations.

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Homework Statement


Two uniform masses of .260kg are fixed at points A and B. Find the magnitude and direction of the initial acceleration of a uniform sphere with mass 0.01kg released from rest at point P that is acted on the gravitational forces of attraction from spheres A and B.

The diagram shows the spheres arranged in a triangle. If you were to divide the triangle in half, making two IDENTICAL right angles triangles, you would have a hypotenuse of 10cm, x value of 8cm, and y value of 6 cm.

Homework Equations


F=G Mm/r^2
G=6.67x10^-11
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



The x values cancel as vectors are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction.
This leaves the y values. Solve for F between mass of 0.26kg and 0.01kg.
F=(6.67x10^-11)(0.26)(0.01)/(0.06^2m)
=4.8x10^-11
Multiply this by two because there are two identical masses acting on the sphere at point P
=9.63x10^-11

Now, using F=ma, equate the result to this...
9.63x10^-11=ma
9.63x10^-11=(0.01)a
divide 9.63x10^-11 by .01
a=9.0x10^-9

This is wrong... the correct answer should be 2.1x10^-9

Thanks :)
 
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heartshapedbox said:
F=(6.67x10^-11)(0.26)(0.01)/(0.06^2m)

The 0.26 kg masses are not 0.06 m away. You need to use the actual distance and then consider what the component in the relevant direction is.
 
Orodruin said:
The 0.26 kg masses are not 0.06 m away. You need to use the actual distance and then consider what the component in the relevant direction is.
I understand that the two masses are not 0.06 m away. I am solving for the y component of distance between the 0.26mass and the 0.01 mass.
 
heartshapedbox said:
I understand that the two masses are not 0.06 m away. I am solving for the y component of distance between the 0.26mass and the 0.01 mass.
But that is not the right way to find the force.
You need to find the direct force of attraction, then take the component of that in the y direction.
 
heartshapedbox said:
I understand that the two masses are not 0.06 m away. I am solving for the y component of distance between the 0.26mass and the 0.01 mass.
You are computing the force as if it was 0.06 m away and not taking components. You cannot get the components by inserting the component of the separation instead of the separation in the force law. You need to first compute the total force (using the actual distance) and then split it into components.

To see this more clearly, if things worked the way you are using the force law, the components would be larger than the total force, which is clearly not the case.
 

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