Newton's Third Law Tire on Road Question

In summary, the conversation discusses Newton's Third Law and how every force has an equal and opposite force. The example given is a car tire being accelerated in the negative x direction, with a supplemental diagram showing a vector force from the tire and the force of the road in the opposite direction. The book mentions that the car actually moves the road, but this is not noticeable due to the mass of the Earth. The question posed is where the car touches the road in order to exert a downward force and move when accelerated. The conversation also brings up scenarios of accelerating on smooth surfaces or with the tires suspended in air, and the necessary horizontal force for acceleration.
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I was reading a textbook that gave an example of Newton's Third Law using the explanation for every force there is an equal and opposite force. The example given was a car tire on the road being accelerated moving in the negative x direction. In the supplemental diagram (see image) there is a vector force horizontally from the tire as a result of the car being accelerated and the force of the road opposite the direction of motion. The book then goes on to state that the car actually moves the road but because of the mass of the Earth its unnoticeable.

My question isn't so much about the equal and opposite as it is where does the car touch the road so that it moves when being accelerated (i.e How can the car exert a force downward on the road when the car is being accelerated horizontally?).

Does the tire have a tangential line of force in the negative x direction parallel to the road right where it touches the road?

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, Think about what would happen if you were to accelerate from rest with your car tires on a very smooth icy surface. Or with your car on a lift with the tires suspended in air with no contact surface beneath, and your foot pressing on the acceleartor pedal. Would the car move forward? What horizontal force must be acting in order for it to accelerate forward?
 
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I can provide an explanation for this question using Newton's Third Law. When a car is being accelerated, the force is being applied by the engine, which creates a forward motion for the car. This force is then exerted onto the tires, which in turn exert an equal and opposite force onto the road. This force is distributed over the area of the tire that is in contact with the road, resulting in the car moving forward.

To answer your question about where the car touches the road, it is important to understand that the tire is not a single point, but rather a surface that is in contact with the road. This surface is in constant motion due to the rotation of the tire, and the point of contact with the road is constantly changing. Therefore, the force is being applied over a larger area rather than a single point.

Furthermore, the tangential line of force that you mentioned is correct. The force applied by the tire on the road is in the same direction as the motion of the car, and it is distributed over the contact area between the tire and the road. This allows the car to exert a downward force on the road, resulting in the car moving forward.

In summary, the car exerts a force on the road through the tires, which is distributed over the contact area between the tire and the road. This force, in turn, allows the car to move forward. This is an excellent example of Newton's Third Law in action, where every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
 

1. What is Newton's Third Law?

Newton's Third Law of Motion states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. This means that when an object exerts a force on another object, the second object will exert an equal and opposite force back on the first object.

2. How does Newton's Third Law apply to a tire on a road?

In the case of a tire on a road, the tire exerts a downward force on the road due to its weight. This creates a reaction force from the road, pushing the tire upwards. This reaction force is what allows the tire to grip the road and move forward.

3. Can Newton's Third Law be seen in other types of motion?

Yes, Newton's Third Law applies to all types of motion. For example, when you walk, your foot exerts a force on the ground, and the ground exerts an equal and opposite force back on your foot, propelling you forward.

4. What happens if the forces are not equal and opposite?

If the forces are not equal and opposite, then there will be a net force acting on the object. This will result in an acceleration in the direction of the greater force.

5. How does Newton's Third Law relate to the concept of momentum?

Newton's Third Law is closely related to the law of conservation of momentum. Since the forces are equal and opposite, the momentum of the two objects involved will be conserved. This means that the total momentum of the system will remain constant, even though the individual momenta may change.

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