Non-central force and work done

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The discussion centers on the concept of work done by non-central forces when an object moves in a circular path and returns to its starting point. Participants clarify that while radial forces do not perform work due to constant radius, the angular component's effect on work done is debated. It is suggested that if the angle changes but the object returns to the same point, the work done may still be zero. Questions arise about the definition of differential elements in the context of the forces involved. The conversation emphasizes the need for careful analysis of how forces interact in circular motion.
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when we start from a point say 'O' cover some distance and back to same point work done in the case is zero.will it be zero too for the non-central force as given below in pic.. am i solving it in the right way?
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Samia qureshi said:
when we start from a point say 'O' cover some distance and back to same point work done in the case is zero.will it be zero too for the non-central force as given below in pic.. am i solving it in the right way?

i do not understand your differential d(phi) ; how this is defined...
well you have a force which has two parts radial one F(r) and F(theta) the motion is in a plane (r, theta) so any displacement has two parts ;
as it is moving in a circle r is not changing so no work done by the radial force ...as regards theta part as the angle is changing and it returns to the same point after covering 2.pi angle ...
how come the work done will be zero ...so try to analyse your answer.
 
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drvrm said:
i do not understand your differential d(phi) ; how this is defined...
well you have a force which has two parts radial one F(r) and F(theta) the motion is in a plane (r, theta) so any displacement has two parts ;
as it is moving in a circle r is not changing so no work done by the radial force ...as regards theta part as the angle is changing and it returns to the same point after covering 2.pi angle ...
how come the work done will be zero ...so try to analyse your answer.
means if angle changes work done will not b zero? if angle changes and still it returns to same point then will it b zero?
 
Samia qureshi said:
when we start from a point say 'O' cover some distance and back to same point work done in the case is zero.will it be zero too for the non-central force as given below in pic.. am i solving it in the right way?
Is the circle that it travels along centered at the origin?
 
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