Nuclear Excitation: Find Energy of Incoming Photon

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The problem involves a nucleus initially at rest that absorbs a gamma ray photon, resulting in an increase in its mass as it transitions to a higher energy state. The task is to determine the energy of the incoming photon required for this excitation.

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  • Participants discuss equating energy before and after the photon absorption, with one participant questioning the role of momentum in the absence of motion information for the final particle. Others suggest that momentum conservation can be applied despite the lack of explicit details.

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Some participants have provided calculations and explored the implications of their reasoning, while others express uncertainty about the correctness of their findings. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between energy, mass, and momentum in this context.

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Participants note that the problem does not specify the motion of the final particle, leading to discussions about the implications of conservation laws in the analysis.

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Homework Statement


A nucleus of mass m initially at rest absorbs a gamma ray (photon) and is excited to a higher energy state such that its mass is now 1.01 m.

Find the energy of the incoming photon needed to carry out this excitation.


Homework Equations



[itex]m^{2} = E^{2}-P^{2}[/itex] possibly

[itex]E_{sys}= KE+E_{o}+E_{\gamma}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Equating energy before and after.

[itex]m+E_{\gamma}=1.01m+KE[/itex]

[itex]E_{\gamma}=.01m+KE[/itex]


Is there a way to find the exact energy required? I think it may have something to do with the momentum but they do not give any info about the motion of the final particle.
 
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stumpoman said:

Homework Statement


A nucleus of mass m initially at rest absorbs a gamma ray (photon) and is excited to a higher energy state such that its mass is now 1.01 m.

Find the energy of the incoming photon needed to carry out this excitation.


Homework Equations



[itex]m^{2} = E^{2}-P^{2}[/itex] possibly

[itex]E_{sys}= KE+E_{o}+E_{\gamma}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Equating energy before and after.

[itex]m+E_{\gamma}=1.01m+KE[/itex]

[itex]E_{\gamma}=.01m+KE[/itex]


Is there a way to find the exact energy required? I think it may have something to do with the momentum but they do not give any info about the motion of the final particle.

The motion of the final particle is fixed by conservation of momentum. They don't have to specify it.
 
So the momentum before and after is E_gamma? I still have that kinetic energy value that I cannot do anything with.
 
stumpoman said:
So the momentum before and after is E_gamma? I still have that kinetic energy value that I cannot do anything with.

Sure it is. At least in units where c=1. Use ##m^{2} = E^{2}-P^{2}## on the final state.
 
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I think I may have solved it. I made a diagram.

Using the second portion

[itex](E_{\gamma}+m)^{2}-(E_{\gamma})^{2}=(1.01m)^{2}[/itex]

[itex]2E_{\gamma}+m^{2}=1.0201m^{2}[/itex]

[itex]E_{\gamma}=0.51005m[/itex]

This seems to make sense but I am not sure if it is correct.
 

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stumpoman said:
I think I may have solved it. I made a diagram.

Using the second portion

[itex](E_{\gamma}+m)^{2}-(E_{\gamma})^{2}=(1.01m)^{2}[/itex]

[itex]2E_{\gamma}+m^{2}=1.0201m^{2}[/itex]

[itex]E_{\gamma}=0.51005m[/itex]

This seems to make sense but I am not sure if it is correct.

I'm not really familiar with that kind of diagram. But the solution looks correct.
 

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