Object within a Pan Spring Motion

In summary, the conversation discusses the solution to a problem involving spring motion equations and an egg on a pan. The solution involves finding the time it takes for the egg to return to equilibrium, which is half a period, and identifying the forces acting on the egg to determine its maximum acceleration. The maximum acceleration is determined by the egg's position at maximum amplitude and the forces acting on it.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Spring motion equations
##\omega = \sqrt{\frac{k}{m}}##
##KE = \frac{1}{2}k \Delta x^2##
##F = -k \Delta x##
##T = \frac{1}{f}##
##f = \frac{\omega}{2 \pi}##

The Attempt at a Solution


Part a is straightforward I believe.
Simply combine the masses as m+M, into ##\omega = \sqrt{\frac{k}{m+M}}##
So then ##T = \frac{1}{f} = \frac{2 \pi}{\sqrt{\frac{k}{m+M}}}##
I believe the time it takes to return equilibrium should half a period, so we get ##\frac{\pi}{\sqrt{\frac{k}{m+M}}}##

Part b is the tricky part, I'm not sure how one goes about it. I guess the first step would be identifying all the forces on the egg
The egg has an upwards normal force from the pan, along with a downwards force from gravity.
It would experience a force from the spring when it is being pulled up or down.
I imagine you would try to find the sum of forces and find when it is not in equilibrium?
 

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srekai said:
the time it takes to return equilibrium should half a period
Think that through again.
srekai said:
Part b is the tricky part
Consider accelerations. During SHM, where in the cycle is the maximum acceleration? What determines the maximum acceleration of the egg?
 
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haruspex said:
Think that through again.

Consider accelerations. During SHM, where in the cycle is the maximum acceleration? What determines the maximum acceleration of the egg?

Yeah definitely half a period, since you pass by the equilibrium point after half a period. Since spring motion is sinusoidal, it'll start from rest, into maximum amplitude, then passes by the equilibrium point, into the compressed form, back out into the equilibrium point in one period.

Acceleration is greatest at the maximum amplitudes, so either when it's fully stretched or compressed.
##a = -(2 \pi f)^2 x##
 
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srekai said:
it'll start from rest, into maximum amplitude, then passes by the equilibrium point, into the compressed form, back out into the equilibrium point in one period.
Right, and the question is asking for the time from one extreme to equilibrium.
srekai said:
Acceleration is greatest at the maximum amplitudes, so either when it's fully stretched or compressed.
Yes. But is there anything in the set-up that limits the acceleration to which the egg can be subjected?
 

1. What is an object within a pan spring motion?

An object within a pan spring motion refers to a physical system where a small object, such as a ball, is placed on top of a horizontal pan that is attached to a spring. The pan and the object are free to move horizontally due to the spring's elasticity.

2. How does the spring affect the object's motion?

The spring's elasticity causes the pan and the object to oscillate back and forth horizontally. This motion is known as a pan spring motion.

3. What factors affect the amplitude and frequency of the motion?

The amplitude and frequency of the motion are affected by the stiffness of the spring, the mass of the object, and the initial displacement of the object from its equilibrium position.

4. What is the equilibrium position in this system?

The equilibrium position is the point at which the spring and the pan are at rest, with the object in the center of the pan. This is the position where the net force on the object is zero.

5. How is this system used in scientific experiments?

The object within a pan spring motion is commonly used in physics experiments to study simple harmonic motion and the relationship between force, mass, and motion. It can also be used to demonstrate concepts such as energy conservation and damping. Additionally, this system is often used as a model for more complex physical systems.

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