Op-Amp Design for Vo = 12VS1+3VS2 with 50 kΩ and 25 kΩ Input Resistances

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The discussion focuses on designing an op-amp circuit to achieve the output Vo = 12VS1 + 3VS2 while maintaining specific input resistances of 50 kΩ and 25 kΩ for VS1 and VS2, respectively. Participants express difficulty in finding a suitable amplifier model, noting that neither summation nor difference amplifiers alone suffice for the desired output and input conditions. Suggestions include using multiple op-amps, such as a summing amplifier combined with a non-inverting amplifier, to meet the requirements. The challenge lies in configuring resistances correctly to satisfy the gain equations for both input resistances. Ultimately, the consensus is that a unique feedback resistor (Rf) for each op-amp may be necessary to solve the problem.
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Design an op-amp circuit that can perform the operation:Vo = 12VS1+3VS2, while simultaneously presenting an input resistance of 50 kΩ on the input side for source VS1 and an input resistance of 25 kΩ on the input side for source VS2.

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I am looking at Op-Amp gains, and I cannot find a model that will produce this output. A summation amplifier won't do it, nor a difference amplifier. What kind of model should I use?
 
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Maylis said:
A summation amplifier won't do it, nor a difference amplifier.

On what basis did you get this?
 
By looking at the equations of the gains of the respective amplifiers.

The equation has a positive sign, and the equation for a difference amplifier for Vout is given here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operat...erential_amplifier_.28difference_amplifier.29

Notice the -Rf/R1 * v1 term.

None of the equations for any of the op-amps in that article seem to work with what I want.
 
A summing amplifier can be non-inverting.
 
Maylis said:
None of the equations for any of the op-amps in that article seem to work with what I want.

The output is (12)V1+(3)V2. Seeing this what op-amp configuration do you think would be suitable? Forget about gains for a second.
 
A Difference amplifier
 
Maylis said:
A Difference amplifier

"Difference" implies subtraction. Where do you see a subtraction?
 
Try to use summing amplifier + ?? amplifier
 
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the problem with the summing circuit is that Rf/50kΩ = 12 and Rf/25kΩ = 3 will not give a solution for Rf.

A non-inverting summer will have the same problem, where G is not satisfied by the two equations with the input resistances being set.
 
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Does your problem put a limit on to the number of amps used?
 
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No, you can use multiple op-amps
 
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So you can use summing amplifier and one voltage follower + 50K resistor between follower input the Vs1, and one non-inverting amplifier.
 
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Maylis said:
the problem with the summing circuit is that Rf/50kΩ = 12 and Rf/25kΩ = 3 will not give a solution for Rf.

A non-inverting summer will have the same problem, where G is not satisfied by the two equations with the input resistances being set.
Can you pass an input through a potential divider?
 
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Maylis said:
No, you can use multiple op-amps
Then it should not be difficult. You can have a unique Rf for each op-amp.
 
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