Orthogonality Relationship for Legendre Polynomials

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The discussion revolves around the orthogonality relationship for Legendre polynomials and the process of orthogonalizing a basis of polynomials, specifically the set {1, x, x²}. The original poster is attempting to orthogonalize this basis and is comparing their results to the second Legendre polynomial.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to orthogonalize the basis and questions the differences between their result and the second Legendre polynomial. Some participants clarify that while the basis is orthogonal, it is not orthonormal and suggest computing normalization. Others note the distinction between orthogonal and orthonormal sets and discuss the normalization of Legendre polynomials.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing clarifications regarding orthogonality and normalization. There is an acknowledgment that the original poster's basis is orthogonal but not orthonormal, and some guidance is offered on the normalization process. Multiple interpretations of the orthonormalization process are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the normalization of polynomials over the interval [-1, 1] and the specific properties of Legendre polynomials, including their normalization conditions. There is also mention of choices regarding the signs of the normalized polynomials.

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Homework Statement
I am trying to orthogonalize {1,x,x²}
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Just the inner product of functions space.
Suppose p = a + bx + cx².
I am trying to orthogonalize the basis {1,x,x²}
I finished finding {1,x,x²-(1/3)}, but this seems different from the second legendre polynomial.
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What is the problem here? I thought could be the a problem about orthonormalization, but check and is not.
 
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Your basis is orthogonal but not orthonormal. You need to compute the normalization for your third basis function, i.e. $$\int_{-1}^1 dx (x^2 - 1/3)^2$$.
 
eys_physics said:
Your basis is orthogonal but not orthonormal. You need to compute the normalization for your third basis function, i.e. $$\int_{-1}^1 dx (x^2 - 1/3)^2$$.
Yeh, but as i said, i already do it. The integrate gives 8/45, taking the square and dividing by the module not get yet.
 
Vendo seu perfil, acho que daria pra te responder em portugues :D
 
Legendre polynomials are orthogonal but not orthonormal over the interval ##[-1,1]##. Thus, you shouldn't expect your orthonormal basis to be identical to the Legendre polynomials.

NB. If you are trying to construct and orthonormal set ##\{p_0,p_1,p_2\}## of polynomials over the interval ##[-1,1]## from the set ##\{1,x,x^2\}## of monomials. Then the first two are ##p_0(x) = \pm\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}## and ##p_1(x) = \pm\sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}x## and not ##p_0(x) = 1## and ##p_1(x) = x##. As you can see, you have choice to make regarding the signs of ##p_0(x)## and ##p_1(x)##.
 
The Legendre polynomials are usually normalized such that ##P_n(1) = 1##.
 

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