Oscillations car suspension help

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The discussion focuses on calculating the distance the car's suspension lifts as four passengers exit during an earthquake. The participants are working through the physics equations related to oscillations, specifically using the formula delta_x = mg/k. There is a debate over the correct formulation of the spring constant k and the values used in calculations, leading to differing results. One participant suggests that the correct expression for delta_x should account for the difference in weight between the car alone and the car with passengers. The conversation highlights the importance of precise calculations and understanding of the underlying physics principles.
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Four people, each with a mass of 71.7 kg, are in a car with a mass of 1150 kg. An earthquake strikes. The driver manages to pull of the road and stop, as the vertical oscillations of the ground surface make the car bounce up and down on its suspension springs. When the frequency of the shaking is 1.60 Hz, the car exhibits a maximum amplitude of vibration. The earthquake ends and the four people leave the car as fast as they can. By what distance does the car's undamaged suspension lift the car's body as the people get out?


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so i used (2pif)^2 = k/(M+m) m = the weight of all four men

so (M+m)g-mg = k(x2-x1)

which gives delta_x = Mg/[(M+m)(2pif)^2)]

and i got .0776 m

but this is wrong? any help please
 
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(M+m)g-mg = k(x2-x1)
Seems to me it should be (M+m)g-Mg = k(x2-x1)
since you want the difference between the car alone (M) and the car with people (M+m). Might be worth stopping to figure out k so we can compare answers at that point.
 


well k wouldn't it just be (2pif)^2(M+m)

so at the end we would get delta_x = mg/((M+m)(2pif)^2) = .016m ??
 


delta_x = mg/((M+m)(2pif)^2) = .016m ??
This is delta x = mg/k
Yes, looks good. But I don't get .016. What did you get for k?
Looks like we differ in the numbers entered or calculated.
 


for k i got 1.742 x 10^5

what did you get?
 
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