Phases of Acetone and Diphenyl at room temp

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The discussion revolves around the phases of acetone and diphenyl at room temperature, specifically addressing the states of these substances based on their melting and boiling points. Participants explore the implications of these physical properties and question assumptions regarding their phases at 20 °C.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that acetone has a melting point of -95°C and a boiling point of 56°C, questioning why it is assumed to be solid at room temperature.
  • Another participant emphasizes that since room temperature (20°C) is above the melting point of acetone, it should be in a liquid state, challenging the assumption that it could be solid.
  • A different participant argues that the normal phase of acetone at room temperature is liquid, suggesting that one cannot assume a substance is solid simply because it has not melted or boiled.
  • One participant compares acetone's melting behavior to that of water, asserting that just because a substance has a low melting point does not mean it is solid at room temperature.
  • Another participant reiterates that -95°C is the temperature at which solid acetone transitions to liquid, and at 20°C, it remains below the boiling point, reinforcing the idea that acetone is liquid.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the assumptions regarding the phases of acetone and diphenyl at room temperature. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the physical properties in relation to their states at 20°C.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully address the implications of diphenyl's melting point of 70°C and boiling point of 255°C, leaving its phase at room temperature unresolved. The discussion lacks clarity on the definitions and conditions under which the phases are determined.

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I was reviewing a chart of Physical properties of pure substances (20 °C)

Acetone has a melting point of -95°C and boiling point of 56°C so you'd assume it's solid (but obvioulsy it's liquid). In addition, Diphenyl has a melting point of 70°C and boiling point of 255°C so you'd assume it's liquid (but it's solid).

What characteristics am I overlooking?
 
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Acetone melts at -95 degrees. Room temperature is 20 degrees. Why would this be a solid?
 
20°C is is greater than -95°C (melting ) so acetone would not have melted and is less than 56°C (boiling) so acetone would not have evaporated; I'm assuming the normal phase of acetone is liquid and you don't merely assume because something hasn't melted or boiled that it is solid? Is my presumption correct?

I honestly don't see what I'm missing.
 
20°C is more than -95°C, so the acetone will melt. See, water has melting point of 0°C, but you "drink" water, don't you? According to your argument, we must be eating ice.

Acetone was melted long ago (-95°C is not the temperature to come across easily), so we see it in its melted, liquid form. Just heat it past its boiling point, it will convert into vapour form.
 
biochem850 said:
20°C is is greater than -95°C (melting ) so acetone would not have melted and is less than 56°C (boiling) so acetone would not have evaporated; I'm assuming the normal phase of acetone is liquid and you don't merely assume because something hasn't melted or boiled that it is solid? Is my presumption correct?

I honestly don't see what I'm missing.

melting is the transition from solid to liquid.

-95 is when solid acetone transforms to liquid acetone. you then raise the temperature to 20 degrees, which is below 56.
 

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