Physics Challenge Question: Stability on a Cylinder

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A solid cube is placed on top of a rough cylinder, and the challenge is to determine the angle range through which the cube can wobble without tipping off. The discussion emphasizes the importance of the center of mass being directly above the pivot point for stability. Participants suggest considering potential energy and the relationship between the center of gravity and the pivot point to find the angle of tipping. Diagrams are recommended to visualize the problem better. The conversation highlights the need for a clear understanding of stability concepts, despite the claim that calculus is not necessary for the solution.
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A solid cube of side ##l = r*pi/2## and of uniform density is placed on the highest point of a cylinder of radius ##r## as shown in the attached figure. If the cylinder is sufficiently rough that no sliding occurs, calculate the full range of the angle through which the block and swing (or wobble) without tipping off. (You can assume this range of equilibrium positions is stable).

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None that I've been made aware of.

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I'm trying to consider this in terms of a point at which the center of mass is directly above the axis of rotation but I'm struggling from there to be honest. Stability isn't something we've covered in my spec, so I'm not sure I have the knowledge to tackle this. I tried drawing a couple diagrams but I didn't get far.
 

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I would recommend writing an expression for the potential energy of the cube as it rocks on the cylinder. You can find the stable and unstable equilibrium by differentiating the expression.
 
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The source of this problem claims not to need calculus of any form.
 
IDValour said:
calculate the full range of the angle through which the block and swing
Did you mean to type 'through which the block can swing'?

If sliding is assumed not to happen then the question becomes one of at what angle does the block topple over, when balancing on the midpoint of its lowest side (the pivot point). Think about the relationship between the centre of gravity of the block, the pivot point and the direction of the force of gravity.
 
IDValour said:
I'm trying to consider this in terms of a point at which the center of mass is directly above the axis of rotation ...

Yes, I think that's the key idea.
Draw a picture corresponding to this special configuration.
 
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