Physics project confusion (effects of length on a pendulum)

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The discussion centers on designing a physics project using a simple pendulum and a motion sensor to study centripetal acceleration by varying the pendulum's length. Participants question the necessity of a force sensor, as the primary focus is on measuring velocity squared divided by the radius (length of the pendulum). However, the professor suggests that incorporating a force sensor could provide insights into the tension in the string and its relationship with centripetal acceleration and mass. Key considerations include the effects of gravitational acceleration and the specific setup of the experiment.

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Homework Statement
We are seeking to study the effects of length (or radius) of a pendulum on the centripetal acceleration.
Relevant Equations
Centripetal Acceleration= velocity^2/r
We are seeking to design a project where we use a simple pendulum and a motion sensor (that will give us velocity) in order to study centripetal acceleration by essentially changing the length of the pendulum for each trial. This felt simple enough, however our professor insists that we would also need a force sensor in order to do the experiment. I cannot understand why we would need force if all we are doing is swinging a pendulum through a motion sensor to study velocity^2/r where r is the length of the pendulum. How would force help us in this situation?
 
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Welcome, @dpatil ! :smile:

He may want to relate force or tension in the string (centripetal acceleration x mass of the pendulum) to the changes in the length of the pendulum.

Acceleration of gravity (always vertical) on the pendulum needs to be considered as well in combination with the centripetal acceleration (always radial).
 
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Welcome to PF.

dpatil said:
How would force help us in this situation?
What are your thoughts so far on this? Did the professor say where they wanted the force(s) measured? Did they suggest a 1-D or 2-D force sensor?
 
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This doesn't have to do with the force measurement, but are you planning on raising the bob to the same height or the same angle? What are the expected results for ##\frac{v^2}{R}## at the lowest point of the swing in either case? That might be something to try and figure out and attempt to verify via measurement.
 
You say you don’t need a force sensor. Ok. Please post the description of the task as given to you and the experimental procedure you propose to follow. Then we will be in a better position to ascertain whether a force sensor is appropriate to use and how.
 
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This is actually a very nice idea for an experiment that can go beyond "seeking to study the effects of length (or radius) of a pendulum on the centripetal acceleration." I will not say anything more lest I spoil it for someone.
 
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