Physics Project Help: Comparing Energy Efficiency for Lever Arm Setups

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The discussion focuses on a physics project comparing energy efficiency between two lever arm setups: one with a weight on top and another with a hanging weight. The experiment utilized a wooden base, a lever arm, and a golf ball as the projectile, measuring time of flight and distance traveled. Data analysis indicated that a hanging mass resulted in greater energy efficiency compared to a weight placed on top, attributed to the effective distribution of weight and energy transfer dynamics. The conversation also touched on the importance of calculating energy input versus output to assess efficiency accurately. Ultimately, the findings suggest that the configuration of the weight significantly influences the energy efficiency of the lever arm system.
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In my physics problem I want to see how the energy transferred to a projectile differs if I (Setup A) set the weight on the lever arm and (Setup B) have a hanging weight on the lever arm.

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My experiment consisted of a base made of a 4x4 piece of wood and took identical pieces of wood straight up along the sides and another piece of wood for the lever arm. I used a metal cylinder as the pivot for the lever. I used three bricks as my 3 main masses and a golf ball for my projectile. I used a screw to stop the lever when it reached 90 degrees so the projectile would only have a horizontal component to its velocity. Here is a real life picture:
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So my actual data I gathered from the experiment was the time of flight of the projectile and the distance it traveled when I let go of the mass and let the lever rotate. I have the height at which the lever arm released the golf ball, the height the ball started at and the height the counterweight(brick) started at.

Since my experiment was going for the energy efficiency difference: I used Energy Final / Energy Initial. Energy final = (KE of the ball + PE of the Ball at release) Energy initial = (PE of counterweight + PE of ball at initial height)

Is this good enough to see the difference in energy efficiencies of a weight on top of a lever arm and a weight hanging from a lever arm if the weight has the same height as to have the PE?

Is there more calculations needed? (moment of inertia, rotational momentum, etc...)
 
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if you are thinking about the efficiency of the machine, you don't really want to think in terms of initial vs final energy, but rather energy in and energy out. what do you have to put into the thing, this is basically the cost of lifting the bricks, vs the desired output, which is the KE of the projectile. so i would define e=PE_{bricks}/KE_{golfball}.

the nice thing is you really don't care how the energy is lost, so you don't need to keep track of that.

cheers
 
I think you mean e = KE(ball) / PE(bricks) since this will result in a percentage and not be greater than zero. But thanks, I can use the second law of thermodynamics and show which setup is best.

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This is the averaged data. Empirically it shows that less mass is more efficient and a hanging mass gives a lot more efficiency. What is the reason for this? Is it because when the weight is suspended underneath the lever it acts like a single particle and its weight is maximized where as the weight is divided up if on top and would be calculated with an integral?
 
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