Physics-Stable Equilibrium and Oscillations

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a force acting on a mass, requiring the determination of stable equilibrium and oscillation frequency. The force equation is analyzed to find equilibrium positions, with participants clarifying the units and the correct interpretation of variables. The stable equilibrium is identified at x=9, as indicated by the negative derivative of the force at that point, confirming stability. For small oscillations, the frequency is calculated using the formula 1/(2π)*sqrt(k/m), with values derived from the force's characteristics. The method for solving both parts is confirmed as correct, despite some initial confusion over the calculations.
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Homework Statement



A one-dimensional force F(x)=(3.0N/sqrt(m))*sqrt(x)-(1.0N/m)x acts on an object of mass m = 2.57kg.


a Find the position x0 where the mass is at a stable equilibrium.
b Find the frequency of small oscillations around that equilibrium position. How does this compare to the
frequency if we were to simply ignore the rst term (the square root dependence) in the force?




Homework Equations



F(x)=0

The Attempt at a Solution



So for the first part i set F(x)=0 and i got x=0 and x=23.13 but then i did it again and got x=0 and x=64.274 I have noooo idea how they ended up that different. and I'm not even honestly sure how to start b. anything would be helpful.
 
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You need to redo part a because both of your answers don't make sense. Note that the m in the first term is part of the units and stands for meters; it's not the mass.
 
(3.0N/m^1/2 )x^1/2 - (1.0N/m)x acts on an object of mass m = 2.57kg. <- that is my problem copied and pasted... so Newton/sqrt(meter) i don't get that :/
 
Vela's correct. Since F(x) is force, it has a unit of 1 Newton. For the function to equal that, m must be meters since if m is mass, x would become mass which x isn't according to the text. m must be meters for the units to make sense.
 
So, pretty much you're telling me my life got 10x easier? thank you haha. in that case... would i be correct in saying that it's at x=0 and x=9? and then take the derivative which would be...
F'(x)=(3/2)x^-1/2-1 so if i use 0 its undefined, so therefore 9 is stable. that's part A.
so F'(9)=-.5
and for part b would i just use... 1/(2pi)*sqrt(k/m) (where k=.5) which would equal... .0702hz? i hope my units are right... and then if the sqrt wasn't there, k=1 so it would be .0992hz. Please anyone, correct me if I'm wrong.
 
smiles75 said:
So, pretty much you're telling me my life got 10x easier? thank you haha. in that case... would i be correct in saying that it's at x=0 and x=9? and then take the derivative which would be...
F'(x)=(3/2)x^-1/2-1 so if i use 0 its undefined, so therefore 9 is stable. that's part A.
so F'(9)=-.5
F'(0) being undefined doesn't imply x=9 is stable. It's the fact that F'(9)<0 that tells you that's a stable equilibrium point.
and for part b would i just use... 1/(2pi)*sqrt(k/m) (where k=.5) which would equal... .0702hz? i hope my units are right... and then if the sqrt wasn't there, k=1 so it would be .0992hz. Please anyone, correct me if I'm wrong.
I didn't check your actual numbers, but I can verify your method is correct.
 
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