Plotting the Probability Density of the Coulomb Wave Function

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The discussion focuses on the plotting of the probability density of the Coulomb wave function, specifically the wave functions |ψ(2, 1, -1)|², |ψ(2, 1, 0)|², and |ψ(2, 1, 1)|² using Mathematica. The user observed that |ψ(2, 1, -1)|² and |ψ(2, 1, 1)|² are identical, which contradicts the expected rotational symmetry of 2p orbitals. The conversation clarifies that while these wave functions are energy eigenfunctions, the p_x and p_y orbitals are not eigenfunctions of the angular momentum operator L_z. The discussion also addresses the validity of complex orbitals and the systematic combination of wave functions to generate correct electron orbitals.

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Hey there - I think I have an issue with my 3D density plots of the probability density of the Coulomb wave function. The reason I think something is going wrong is because my plots of |ψ(n=2, l=1, m=-1)|² and |ψ(2, 1, 1)|² are identical, while I would expect them to have the same shape but be rotationally symmetric along different orthogonal axes.

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The above images are Mathematica's plots of |ψ(2, 1, -1)|², |ψ(2, 1, 0)|², |ψ(2, 1, 1)|², respectively. As you can see, the first and third are identical, and not the shape of 2p orbitals, while the second plot actually looks like what I would expect - one of the three 2p orbitals.

Here is my wave function - it's possible that the conversion from spherical to Cartesian coordinates is a problem, but I'm not sure:

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If the above needs clarifying, do ask. Thanks for any help in advance ;)
 
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If you take suitable linear combinations of ##\psi(2,1,-1)## and ##\psi(2,1,+1)##, and then find the probability densities, you do get the ##p_x## and ##p_y## orbitals.
 
jtbell said:
If you take suitable linear combinations of ##\psi(2,1,-1)## and ##\psi(2,1,+1)##, and then find the probability densities, you do get the ##p_x## and ##p_y## orbitals.

Ah, I've managed to make linear combinations which give the x and y-direction p orbitals, but I am still confused - does that mean some orbital wave functions aren't energy energy eigenfunctions? How/why would that be true?
 
tomdodd4598 said:
Ah, I've managed to make linear combinations which give the x and y-direction p orbitals, but I am still confused - does that mean some orbital wave functions aren't energy energy eigenfunctions? How/why would that be true?
They are still energy eigenfunctions. However, ##p_x## and ##p_y## are not eigenfunctions of ##\hat{L}_z##.
 
DrClaude said:
They are still energy eigenfunctions. However, ##p_x## and ##p_y## are not eigenfunctions of ##\hat{L}_z##.

Right, I understand that, but I've now got more questions - what are those donut-shaped probability densities? Why aren't they valid orbitals? Also, is there a systematic way for me to combine these 'base' wave functions to create the correct electron orbitals? I managed to make an intuitive guess with the other two p orbitals, but is there a general set of linear combinations which give all of the orbitals?
 
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tomdodd4598 said:
Right, I understand that, but I've now got more questions - what are those donut-shaped probability densities? Why aren't they valid orbitals?
They are completely valid orbitals. But they are complex functions, which can make them more difficult to work with in certain situations. The ##p_x## and ##p_y## orbitals are completely real functions, and their orientation along the Cartesian coordinates makes them useful to understand things like chemical bonding.

tomdodd4598 said:
Also, is there a systematic way for me to combine these 'base' wave functions to create the correct electron orbitals? I managed to make an intuitive guess with the other two p orbitals, but is there a general set of linear combinations which give all of the orbitals?
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital#Real_orbitals
 

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