Polar to Cartesian conversion - how related?

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The problem involves converting the polar equation r = csc(θ) into its Cartesian form and understanding the relationship between the two representations. The original poster expresses confusion regarding how the Cartesian equation y = 1 relates to the polar equation r = csc(θ).

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  • Participants discuss the geometric interpretation of the equations and the relationship between the polar and Cartesian forms. The original poster attempts to reconcile the differences between the graphs of y = 1 and r = csc(θ). Others illustrate the relationship using a triangle formed in the Cartesian plane and question the interpretation of the equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the geometric relationships involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the equations, but there remains some uncertainty about specific details.

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There are indications of potential typos in the discussion, which may affect the clarity of the mathematical relationships being explored. Participants are also navigating the nuances of converting between polar and Cartesian coordinates.

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Homework Statement


Find the cartesian equation for the curve r=csctheta

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I understand how to get the answer, by changing it to r=1/sin, and then rsin=1, and then since y=rsin, then y=1.

What I'm not understanding is the relationship between y=1 an r=csc. I thought that when you convert to a cartesian equation, it's supposed to either look the same when graphed or be able to be used to plot the r and theta coordinates onto a polar plane. But y=1 translates to r=1 on a polar plane, and r=csc is nothing like that?? What am I not understanding here?
 
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Draw a cartesian coordinate system and draw the horizontal line y = 1. Then draw a line from the origin to the point (3,1) on your horizontal line and make that a radius vector r. Label the polar coordinate angle \theta in the proper position. Drop a line from your point (3,1) to the x-axis at (3,0) forming a little triangle with r and \theta as part of it. The sides of that triangle are r, 3, and 1 units long. Notice that for that triangle that

\csc\theta = \frac r 1

Then notice if you do the same thing using (x,1) instead of (3,1) you will still get

\csc\theta = \frac r 1

So that equation r =\csc\theta literally gives the same graph as y = 1.

[edit] fixed two typos
 
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Excellent! That helps a lot. But the last bit about using (x,1) - not sure how you're getting csc=r/x. Wouldn't it still be r/1?
 
Yes, that was probably a typo. It is precisely because csc(\theta)= r/1 that [/itex]r= (1)csc(\theta)[/itex].

"r= 1" is NOT "y= 1". It's graph is the circle with center at the origin and radius 1.
 
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Excellent! That helps a lot. But the last bit about using (x,1) - not sure how you're getting csc=r/x. Wouldn't it still be r/1?

Yes. That was a typo as Halls surmised. There was another one too. I'll fix both.
 

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