Polynomial Problem: Solving for Radius of Gas Tank Volume

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The discussion revolves around solving a mathematical problem involving the volume of a gas tank shaped as a right cylinder capped with hemispheres. The equation derived is a cubic equation, which participants note is complex to solve analytically. One user initially struggles to isolate the radius (r) and receives guidance on the equation's formulation, which includes terms for both the cylinder and hemispherical volumes. The conversation highlights the cubic formula's difficulty and suggests numerical methods, particularly Newton's method, as practical alternatives for finding the radius. A specific numerical solution is provided, yielding a radius of approximately 1.1731 meters. The importance of understanding the underlying math rather than merely memorizing formulas is emphasized, reflecting a desire for deeper comprehension of the concepts involved.
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I'm stumped! I'm on this question in my math book that reads something like this:

"A gas tank that is 10 meters in length (end to end) consists of a right-cylinder and is capped at either end by a hemisphere. What is the radius of the tank if the volume is 50 cubic meters?"

Ok i got as far as
4/3[pi]r^2(r + 15/2) = 50

but I can't seem to figure out how to isolate r. I know I'm overlooking something mundane, but can someone give me a hint?

Tanks! Ha ha ha! (get it? Tanks?)

Sorry.
 
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You have a cubic equation:
r3+ (15/2)r2- 75/(2[pi])=0.

I don't think there is a simple way to solve that. There is, of course, the "cubic formula" but that's not going to be easy here. You could also use a numerical method like "Newton's method".
 
Originally posted by HallsofIvy
You have a cubic equation:
r3+ (15/2)r2- 75/(2[pi])=0.

Ok yeah I got that too.

Originally posted by HallsofIvy
I don't think there is a simple way to solve that. There is, of course, the "cubic formula" but that's not going to be easy here. You could also use a numerical method like "Newton's method".

By "cubic formula" you mean x3 + y3 = (x + y)(x2 - 2xy + y2) or whatever it is?
 
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This is from a pre-calculus book in a chapter before one titled "Finding factors and zeros of polynomials." (i.e. polynomial division)
 
As far as I can see, you've made an error at the beginning.
Sphere volume: 4/3*Pi*r^3
Cylinder vol.: Pi*r^2*h
The equation should be: 4/3*Pi*r^3+Pi*r^2*(10-2*r)=50
... (errors possible)
r^3-15*r^2+75/Pi=0

After this... the "easy way" is with the cubic formula. The one you'll find useful.(googled)
 
hi buddy
the answer using calculator is r= 1.1731 meters to four places of decimals.you can do it without using calculator by pen-and-paper iteration(i used calc. for exactly the same thing).
1)start with r=1.
2)use r^2 = 2/15*(75/2pi - r^3) to get new r
3)repeat 2) until convergence occurs(in some cases it may not converge but here it does converges.see any text-book for more info on convergence)

numerical methods are much more useful nowadays than analytic ones due to their (almost) infinite range of application .
 
Yeah I used a calculator to find it out too but I was hoping I could do it algebraically...
See I'm just trying to understand the math, I don't want to end up memorizing it. I just figured with the information in all the previous chapters I could do it without any "advanced" math.
But maybe my search is in vain.
 
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